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> The M Pro series processor (...) even if it were the best processor to ever exist, it's not something that we can not live without. > Linux is a part time job It has been good enough for the past 15 years or so.

>It has been good enough for the past 15 years or so. I daily drove fedora last summer for a few months and it was a joke on how unstable it was. Slack would crash when screen sharing, likewise for chrome/gmeet, camera corruption bugs. Just two days ago I was teasing a coworker on a daily that we can spot a linux user by how long it takes him to unmute himself. Chrome would randomly stop rendering all windows when wa…

> It is hard to justify dealing with Linux desktop and PC hardware even at a price premium

There is only one justification that I need: Apple wants me in a golden cage, and I don't want to lose my freedom at any cost. No matter how much cheaper it can get, not matter how much "better" than the competition it is, it is not worth the price. I do not exchange my freedom for convenience, status or some materialistic joy. It's as simple as that.

All your arguments against Linux are at best circumstantial and at worst bogus. Of course it is not perfect. Of course it has limitations. But it's undeniable that the gap between FOSS and Windows/Apple is getting narrower and narrower, despite the FOSS side getting a minuscule fraction of the resources available to trillion dollar corporations.

And the really fucked up part is that You are the one claiming to "hate" Apple, yet you keep buying their products and making their market dominance ever stronger.

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Just to address your "claims":

> we can spot a linux user by how long it takes him to unmute himself

Never had any issues of that sort, whether I was using Google Meet, Slack, Zoom or anything else.

> KDE plasma would get messed up very frequently. Gnome was more stable

I've been using XFCE since 2010 (When Ubuntu went with Unity). It is not fancy and does everything I need.

> issues with fractional scaling X11 apps on Wayland.

It has been working fine on my Desktop and my Framework laptop for some good 3 years, when I actually bothered to look. Before that, I'd just go by through customization of window zoom levels (browser) and font-size (emacs, terminal, GTK apps).

> My LG C4 cannot be used at 4k/120Hz because you cant get HDMI 2.1 on Linux/AMD

hum, too bad? How significantly was your quality of life affected by this? Curiously, I also use an LG monitor with AMD running at 4k/60Hz, and the fact that I am "missing out" on something here does not even cross my mind.

> Installing a DAW took days of reading audio routing docs

Did you get it working? Was the software FOSS? Can you share your findings back with the developers and help them improve their product, or are you going to keep rationalizing the abusive relationship you're in because "at least things just work, most of the time".

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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The limiting factor to Chinese soft power development is its need to remain authoritarian. Folks will accept living under one if that's all they know. But if you didn't grow up with the brainwashing nobody will trust you and everything is transactional. You see Chinese attempts to exert political control over its diaspora and it never works as well as they would like. Where the West's soft power essentially comes fro…

I don’t know man, I would have believed this wholeheartedly ten years ago. But people are choosing true authoritarianism in droves. People just keep voting for Trump, Orban, Erdogan, and Le Pen. Trump is extremely transactional. All of which is great news for China, and a great victory for their ‘do nothing: win’ policy.

They always have. The present isn’t super special, and I think Europeans (speaking as one) realize this a bit easier, because we see populist governments rise and fall again, over and over, in different countries.

Populism is notoriously brittle, and almost every European populist party has eventually fallen once they gained actual power, because it turns out governing is complicated and can’t be done effectively while maintaining that beautiful, simple, enticing narrative that brought you into power.

But the Chinese government is not populist in the same sense, often quite the contrary. Their legitimacy seems to be derived from the fact that they have achieved real results for their population, which means they will eventually hit a different road block.

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post #442

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I am seriously suggesting that a single bad decision (like taking some money from the cash register) can land you in prison, why do we hold jobs to a higher standard? Learning from our mistakes is one thing, slip ups happen after all, but I’m just drawing a comparison to “a single misjudgement”. If you don't know societies values (stealing is wrong) or a companies values (tarnishing the brand by looking cheap and des…

> the outcome should probably be the same Why exactly besides the fact that you like extreme solutions?

Because accountability?

Either you’re suggesting jail is too punitive a punishment or that being fired should never be a viable option.

I’m not saying we should jump to extremes, I’m saying that the option should be on the table if you violate the core principles of the company, especially in a way that causes loss of consumer trust.

Whats the difference between defrauding Ford out of $200M and causing $200M in damages because I decided that every new Ford will include the word “I solemnly swear I will shit on the American flag when requested”?

In essence, in either case I am putting my own needs above the needs of the company and above the needs of the consumer - in a way that undermines future sales for the company too.

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I had to completely turn off notifications for Instagram because none of the provided settings appear to disable the almost-daily "for you" and "trending" notifications. Now I don't get notified when someone DMs me there, which has lead to me missing important messages.

Same. And I used to work there, and I raised it with them. They have all their career incentives aligned to getting people to see spammy notifications. I was powerless.

The problem with the user hostility is that, in the long term, people don't use it.

As a web dev I see so many things that are lights-on-nobody-home about Meta. The Meta app on my phone generates numerous notifications, when I get one that says a game that looks really cool is 50% off, clicking on it doesn't send me to the landing page in the their app store, it sends me to the senseless home page of the app which seems to have the message "move on folks, nothing to see here"

The Instagram web application fails to load the first time I load it on my computer and I have to always reload. On either Facebook or Instagram I am always getting harassed by OnlyFans models that want me to engage with them... on the same platform where I engage with my sister-in-law.

When they say they are "careless people" I wonder if they are not just careless about sexual harassment and genocide but careless about making money because we're in a postcapitalist hell where Zuck could care less for making money for his shareholders but rather gets a squee from sitting behind Trump at his inauguration and hires people with $100M packages not because he wants them to work with him but because he doesn't want them to work with someone else.

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Did we ever find out what happened at Mozilla that allowed that trust-destroying Mr. Robot advertisement to happen? There seems to be a trend (n=2) of Marketing spending consumer trust for one-time media engagement clicks.

Not in detail afaik. The impression I got was that they somehow just didn't consider that people not looking for it would notice, and per the statement at the time ( https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/retrospective-looking-gl... ) the review process was too focused on privacy vs the big picture.

Yeah, that’s the non-answer post that I remember. Ah well.

Re: More on Apple's Trust-Eroding 'F1 the Movie' Wallet Ad

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> Apple Wallet is in the App store, and the F1 ad debacle directly violates App Store guidelines https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ ) It would only violate App Store guidelines if Apple forces itself to agree to, and be bound by them. I think it's arguable that they probably do not, and so they didn't violate the guidelines because they're not bound by them.

Wouldn’t the guidelines apply to anyone using it who doesn’t have specific, legal, written exemptions? Not to say they don’t have it, but simply hand-waving “well they wrote it so it doesn’t have to apply to them” doesn’t seem quite as simple to me. I could be wrong!

The whole point of an agreement is that it sets out what parties will do for each other, and what happens if there is a breach.

Apple could already do things with the App Store without needing to agree to something to get Apple to let Apple do App Store things.

Apple is not going to sue themselves for being in breach.

etc.

Just because there's e.g. a license agreement doesn't mean you need to agree to something, if you are somehow otherwise authorized to do the thing. E.g. fair use, or you have a pre-existing right or ownership, or whatever.

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post #506

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> Apple Wallet is in the App store, and the F1 ad debacle directly violates App Store guidelines https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/ ) It would only violate App Store guidelines if Apple forces itself to agree to, and be bound by them. I think it's arguable that they probably do not, and so they didn't violate the guidelines because they're not bound by them.

Wouldn’t the guidelines apply to anyone using it who doesn’t have specific, legal, written exemptions? Not to say they don’t have it, but simply hand-waving “well they wrote it so it doesn’t have to apply to them” doesn’t seem quite as simple to me. I could be wrong!

I think the premise is folks at Apple don’t have the occasion to be prompted to accept the terms.

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Why not just use the mobile website then? An app icon is itself equivalent to having a billboard on your homescreen. What is the app providing besides notifications that necessitates its use?

Mobile websites are often either non existent or work far worse than the app.

In the case of Uber, they actually have a very deeply developed webapp.
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