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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by vixen99 »

techdmn wrote: post #489
jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #223

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

Just watched a vid of LAPD trampling a person with a horse, then shooting them with what looked like a baton round at a range of 5-10 feet. That is a life altering injury, administered with direct intent, while the protestor was trying to flee. Holding my breath for zero consequences for unnecessary force. Not to mention qualified immunity. LAPD doing LAPD things. How can one argue that the police serve the people? T…

How can the incident (with video evidence) you describe not potentially result in criminal charges? Why hold your breath? Surely there are countless people to act on that.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by technothrasher »

hypeatei wrote: post #451

If this is an "invasion" then Trump should invoke Article 5 against all nations where the illegal immigrants originate from.

Article 5 isn't invoked "against" anybody. It is a call for help from a NATO member after being attacked, which each other member state can respond to by taking "such action as it deems necessary." Trump could certainly invoke Article 5, but the likely response from other NATO members would be, "no action necessary."

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by conartist6 »

techdmn wrote: post #489
jxjnskkzxxhx wrote: post #223

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state. The other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

Just watched a vid of LAPD trampling a person with a horse, then shooting them with what looked like a baton round at a range of 5-10 feet. That is a life altering injury, administered with direct intent, while the protestor was trying to flee. Holding my breath for zero consequences for unnecessary force. Not to mention qualified immunity. LAPD doing LAPD things. How can one argue that the police serve the people? T…

You are seeing what hatred like like up close.

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by Muslims4Porky »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #417
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what Canada mostly does and it’s super effective, the problem is that the people who employ illegal immigrants: farmers, construction contractors, hotel owners, etc…belong to the same party pushing against illegal immigration, they would basically be punishing themselves, so it isn’t going to happen.

Doesn't post-pandemic Canada have the highest rate of legal immigration in years since government gives out immigration visas like candy? I can't see how this is good in a country that already has a stagnating economy and a housing crisis. You're eroding the bargaining power of local labor and increasing competition for housing in an already tight market.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by conartist6 »

vixen99 wrote: post #511
techdmn wrote: post #489

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just watched a vid of LAPD trampling a person with a horse, then shooting them with what looked like a baton round at a range of 5-10 feet. That is a life altering injury, administered with direct intent, while the protestor was trying to flee. Holding my breath for zero consequences for unnecessary force. Not to mention qualified immunity. LAPD doing LAPD things. How can one argue that the police serve the people? T…

How can the incident (with video evidence) you describe not potentially result in criminal charges? Why hold your breath? Surely there are countless people to act on that.

What would be the point? There's almost nothing they could do that would be against the law if they're just given a pre-emptive pardon. They could put up an arena with citizens vs lions as long as it pleases Donald...

Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by ourmandave »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Back in 2019 during Trump 1.0, ICE raided 7 chicken processing plants in Mississippi and arrested 100s of workers.

They charges 4 low level managers with aiding illegal immigrants.

But I don't think the companies had to pay any fines or any owners face charges.

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Post by typeofhuman »

lemoncookiechip wrote: post #497
Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Because this isn't about that. This is about having a perceived enemy that only you can fight. If it wasn't immigrants (legal or illegal), it would be a different group, within or outside of your borders. It's fascism 101.

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Re: Marines being mobilized in response to LA protests

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Post by peppers-ghost »

Larrikin wrote: post #224

If illegal immigration is such a problem, why not fine businesses 5x salary for using the labor, for as long as it was used? There are a lot of systems in place to verify working status at this point. It eliminates any incentive to hire this cheaper labor willing to work for lower wages. The people coming will be coming for a variety of reasons but it won't be to take the jobs of the uneducated Americans

Because that would be anti-business. Illegal immigration is only a problem when you need to wind up the right wingers about something.
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