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Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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"Penalizing solo travelers" is a hell of a spin on quantity discounts. If this isn't click bait what is?

Yup. It's funny how this stuff evolves. You used to see "surcharge for visa" but visa made that illegal. So now you see "discount for cash/debit", and everyone is happy!

Unfortunately you don't see that in the EU because the EU would rather have centrally controlled financial transactions than act in the interest of the citizens.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I thought everybody booked aisle and window and left the middle unbooked. If you get lucky, you have an extra seat; if not, the middle seat will almost always be willing to swap for one of the other two and you can still sit together.

Nope. If an empty row is available, book the middle seat. No one wants to sit next to the weirdo who chooses the middle seat first.

But then if the plane is full you are stuck in a middle seat whereas, like gp pointed out, choosing window + aisle for a two-person booking almost always lets you fallback to window + middle or middle + aisle if the middle seat does get filled so there is really no risk in taking the chance.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Airlines should grow up and start charging by weight just like carriers do for every good except passengers (flat rate shipping boxes excluded.)

If you also get seat sizes/pitches that match that price then I'm all for it.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I love how the author thinks they've discovered something super secret, when they have in fact just learnt about "Group Discounts". Author will lose their mind when they buy 10+ of the same thing from AliExpress.

Airfare typically has group anti-discounts, where if you buy more tickets on a single reservation than tickets available at the lowest fare bucket, they’d sell you all the tickets at the higher fare instead of mixing fares

I bet most customers prefer that over finding out that they can't sit together.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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You've never seen a 2+1 free or 3+1 free pricing in stores? We have them frequently here in Europe on some things. This is same thing and tbh I am surprised it took so long. And as a father of 2 small kids not complaining at all, having multiple kids these days is brutal also financially, any small thing that helps is very much appreciated.

> You've never seen a 2+1 free or 3+1 free pricing in stores? Yes and as a solo person I can choose to buy those and take advantage of it in the same way a family can. Usually it's consumables like a 6 pack of bagels or something that might cost $5 which I'll 100% use. This airline approach comes off much different, because as a solo traveler there is no benefit or reason why I would ever buy 2 tickets to save $80 pe…

If you regularly eat bagels for three persons you might also be able to take advantage of a second airplane seat all by yourself soon.

On a more serious note, group discounts for services are very common and usually not something you can take advantage of as a solo customer.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I never would have understood this as a young, single person. Now that I have a family there are several times per year where we price out the cost of a solo ticket for one parent, the price of taking one or two kids, or the cost of all of us going for something. Having a quantity discount would absolutely tip the scales for us for certain trips. People will look at this as penalizing single travelers and want everyo…

Traveling solo is already brutal because hotels and Airbnbs are priced on the assumption of two travelers. Traveling solo essentially costs double automatically because of lodging, and it kind of sucks there’s a double whammy with airfare where, unlike lodging, the penalty doesn’t actually make any sense. I guess as a family be grateful that all hotel rooms come with a 50% (or more) discount per traveler?

Airplane travel doesn't mean you actually need to pay for accommodations - visiting friends and family is also a thing.

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>if you’re solo it seems like they expect you to buy 2 spots Cruises are probably more complicated because they price things other than your cabin into the "experience." (Though I think the Queen Mary 2 a few years back was slightly less than 2x for just me.) But the random Marriott doesn't really care if there is one of you or two when it comes to pricing.

The other things priced into the "experience" are why I call out cruises separately. With a hotel, I get it, a room is a room. But a solo cruiser is eating half the food, drinking half the drinks, taking up half as many seats at shows... Maybe that's the problem. Cruises rely on people spending a lot of extra money onboard the ship, or drink packages, nicer dinners, excursions, etc... fewer people doing that, with le…

Isn't the cruise capacity still limited by the number of rooms? So saving peanuts on drinks and cheap food probably doesn't make that big of a difference for them.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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> It's even worth it the 25% increase to make them let people carry luggage You are asking for people who fly without checked luggage (as I usually do) to subsidize you.

Sure, you would subside people flying with luggage. It also reduces the time planes stay on the ground, stops the fighting between passengers for the always full luggage bins, clears the seats in case of emergency, and eliminates the largest hidden fee companies manage to put on their prices. Anyway, the fact that you just assumed I personally fly with luggage is weird.

A piece of luggage is on the same other of magnitude as the variance in human weight so either way there is plenty of "subsidizing" going on.

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I don’t know about yours, but my spouse is OK with sharing sheets with me.

Depends on region. In many places a hotel room for two guests has two beds that are either separate or together. So make sure you book a king size bed, and also buy one of those fake moustache-and-glasses for your wife so nobody suspects anything at breakfast. Or she can wait in the room and you'll sneak some scrambled eggs and bacon from the buffet in your coat pockets for her.

Or they could just go eat real food instead of the bargain bin garbage served as free breakfast in most hotels.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Traveling solo is already brutal because hotels and Airbnbs are priced on the assumption of two travelers. Traveling solo essentially costs double automatically because of lodging, and it kind of sucks there’s a double whammy with airfare where, unlike lodging, the penalty doesn’t actually make any sense. I guess as a family be grateful that all hotel rooms come with a 50% (or more) discount per traveler?

> I guess as a family be grateful that all hotel rooms come with a 50% (or more) discount per traveler? This is not always the case. A two-bedroom hotel suite on average costs more than two standard rooms. This happens because the vast majority of rooms are twin/double and cheap hotels often don't offer suites at all. At a given location two travellers would be chosing from e.g 100 options and at least some of these…

That doesn't make sense - the family in your example has 110 options whereas the single traveler only has 100.
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