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Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Re: Someone at YouTube needs glasses

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Post by MartinGAugustin »

zoogeny wrote: post #310
Starlevel004 wrote: post #40

It used to be 12 videos until about a year ago. If you zoom in and out the thumbnails don't change size! The worst casualty of the current design is the search. You get three videos before it inserts completely irrelevant and unrelated algorithmic recommendations. No? Fuck off? Do what I tell you to do!

> You get three videos before it inserts completely irrelevant and unrelated algorithmic recommendations This has become increasingly annoying for me. Sometimes I want to find a reference I saw a few years ago on some topic. Even if I know the speaker, the topic, sometimes even the title, I can't find the video. I get a handful of results vaguely related to the search terms and then a never ending list of garbage not…

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Post by ChuckMcM »

dylan604 wrote: post #507
ChuckMcM wrote: post #475

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This response captures it perfectly. I started at Google in 2006 and the "mini kitchens" (essentially a convenience mart) were just getting "re-organized" The new CFO was out to "cut unnecessary costs."[1] While Google was banking billions of dollars in "Free Cash Flow" every QUARTER than were cutting the 'unnecessary' costs that were something like $12,000 per employee per YEAR. So with 20,000 employees, that is abo…

>This opens up the opportunity for disruption. There is a hysteresis effect though, everyone has a different tolerance for crap. More and more people I know are not "Google" users anymore, On my mobile device, I have totally de-googled them so that no G apps are on my device. I only use gmail reluctantly from a laptop for accounts that are necessary for work. Haven't used G search in years. Me and the 12 other people…

You're leading edge in this regard, the fall off is, in my experience, somewhat exponential. It never quite reaches zero though. Which is why we have people who still have AOL mail addresses.

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Post by dylan604 »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #512
dylan604 wrote: post #507

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>This opens up the opportunity for disruption. There is a hysteresis effect though, everyone has a different tolerance for crap. More and more people I know are not "Google" users anymore, On my mobile device, I have totally de-googled them so that no G apps are on my device. I only use gmail reluctantly from a laptop for accounts that are necessary for work. Haven't used G search in years. Me and the 12 other people…

You're leading edge in this regard, the fall off is, in my experience, somewhat exponential. It never quite reaches zero though. Which is why we have people who still have AOL mail addresses.

we have people with AOL mail addresses still because it still works. if they pulled the plug on it, nobody would be using it any more. now i'm curious who actually is paying for those servers, and how they make money doing it. just not actually curious enough to look it up

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Post by d0gsg0w00f »

ggus wrote: post #455
matsemann wrote: post #166

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What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

My YT mobile pet peeve is that when you toggle the captions, an useless "Subtitles/CC Turned ON" is shown for 5 seconds.. OVER THE CAPTIONS! Most useless message ever, placed exactly where you do not want it to be.

I can never tell if the toggle is CC on or off until I wait and see captions or realize nobody has talked yet.

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Post by falcor84 »

SJC_Hacker wrote: post #478
droopyEyelids wrote: post #461

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I think we need to be careful with the language like “this is what the users want” when something along the lines of “this is what triggers of pattern of compulsive behavior in users” is closer to the truth

Outside of legislation, there isn't a way to make a distinction. Corporations and most individuals are going to do whatever is legally permissible in order to maximize revenue. And I would say its mostly not YouTube actually producing the content. They are responsible for the "reward mechanism" of clickbaity/shock content driving views, and in return, more views meaning more money for the creators. But I would really…

As for a business model, I think that we should pay creators, either directly e.g. via Patreon, or slightly indirectly via smaller creator-led platforms like Nebula.

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Post by debugnik »

Nathan2055 wrote: post #374
nerdsniper wrote: post #306

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This is also an issue on desktop web. YT will arbitrarily change the quality/resolution but doesn’t update the selector displayed in the UI. So for every single video I have to select 4K just in case YT might be serving it at 1080p or some other resolution even though it displays “4K” on the UI element. Also the compression algorithm is very aggressive and it works reasonably well for general content but for edge cas…

The desktop issue was an intentional change that happened sometime in like 2017 or so. The original functionality of the quality selector was to throw out whatever video had been buffered and start redownloading the video in the newly selected quality. All well and good, but that causes a spinning circle until enough of the new video arrives. The "new" functionality is to instead keep the existing quality video in th…

> The idea is that [...] a few seconds later the new buffer hits and you jump up to the new quality level.

Except "a few seconds later" can become minutes. Sometimes it just keeps going at the lower quality while the UI claims to play a noticeably higher resolution than the one actually playing. To be clear, I don't care that the "automatic" quality is actually automatic, I care that the label blatantly lies about which resolution is playing. "Automatic (1080p60)" shouldn't look like a video from 2005.

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Post by behringer »

kevincox wrote: post #463
matsemann wrote: post #166

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What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

I call these features "dead birds" because they remind me of gifts that an outdoor cat will leave on your doorstep. They took quite the effort to do and were made with good intention, but ultimately I don't want them.

Careful there are programmers here watching. Pretend to like the bird.

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Post by teekert »

ggus wrote: post #455
matsemann wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kills me with the autoplay (at least on mobile), is that the video continues from where it was when you click it. But the autoplay had no sound, and I probably didn't watch it closely. So I always have to scroll back to the beginning, as I've just now been put in the middle of a sentence a bit into the video. Especially for channels which actually gets straight to the point (like Numberphile) it's annoying. Such…

My YT mobile pet peeve is that when you toggle the captions, an useless "Subtitles/CC Turned ON" is shown for 5 seconds.. OVER THE CAPTIONS! Most useless message ever, placed exactly where you do not want it to be.

YouTube is now full screen.
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