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A $20k American-made electric pickup with no paint, no stereo, no screen

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Post by floxy »

anannymoose wrote: post #492
Brybry wrote: post #459

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electric vehicle tax credits are non-refundable tax credits meaning you can't get a credit for more than you owe. [1][2] Which means no one is getting your tax dollars to buy vehicles (though there may be some infrastructure or manufacturing grants for companies). [1] https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12600 [2] https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/tax-credits-for-individuals-wha...

So, should I wish to purchase a vehicle this tax year, I tell my HR to adjust my income withholding such that I owe 7,500$ come tax time and then reap the rewards? Or is there more to the incentive structure?

What you have withheld is not part of the equation. It is your tax liability that matters.

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Post by mrWiz »

CydeWeys wrote: post #446

I'm wondering why the hood is so big, given that it doesn't need to contain an engine? Is that where the batteries are located? Or is it just mostly empty space in the form of a frunk serving as a crumple zone to meet crash testing standards? I hope it's not just a strictly aesthetic thing, because you could reduce that distance and end up with an even more practical truck.

It has a 7 cubic foot frunk in there.

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Post by anticorporate »

nashashmi wrote: post #484

Good trend. Other companies should follow suit. Simplify the car enough. And make it cheap. Sometimes I feel like Chevys are just like this. Real cheap machines. Or those white ford vans made for industrial use.

I wish those Ford Transit vans were made at a cheaper price point. There's not one in stock in my metro area for less than $50,000.

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Post by [deleted] »

soared wrote: post #214
disgruntled1901 wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Paint doesn’t take engineering time.. just spend $500 and let some other company do it. Are you sure you read the article? The is explicitly addressed.

DIY wrap kit I guess is a form of options, but again seems like a missed revenue opportunity. Some of your market wants DIY customization, but realistically some anmount of (or almost every) consumer would rather pay +$1000 for a nice colored than $400 for a wrap kit.

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Post by desert_rue »

cityofdelusion wrote: post #152
discmonkey wrote: post #12

I love the look and the idea, but I wonder if it will go the way of the small/budget phone? Will folks revealed preference continue to be big and expensive?

Agreed. The U.S. market had a very long run of both large expensive and small cheap pickup trucks, and people consistently have bought the big luxury pickups. It is why all the small trucks were axed to begin with. Even back in their prime, I saw many more F-150s than Rangers. Its an easy up-sell as I'm sure any car salesman will say: well for only a few more thousand you get into a full-size, and from there, add som…

“It is why all the small trucks were axed to begin with.”

No, it is because emissions regulations. A small truck can’t be built on our emissions policies, not that there isn’t a market for one.

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Post by ponector »

MostlyStable wrote: post #308
aidenn0 wrote: post #253

For anyone curious, if you made a similarly sized gas-powered pickup with an i4 engine, it would be penalized more than a full-sized pickup for being too fuel inefficient, despite likely getting much better mileage than an F-150 because, since 2011, bigger cars are held to a lesser standard by CAFE[1]. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy...

Example #5621 that a simple carbon tax would be miles better than the complex morass of regulations we currently have.

I think the best way is to tax fuel itself. This way worse mpg result in more tax.

Tax diesel more than gasoline, LNG less.

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Post by superconduct123 »

linkregister wrote: post #48
seanalltogether wrote: post #24

Hand crank windows is a weird choice, are the locks manual as well?

In a 2-door vehicle, you can just lean over and roll up the window and toggle the lock on the other door. If you've ever had an old car then you'll know the annoyance of a broken electrical motor.

I've never had an issue with electric windows, or even know anyone who has

Was that more of a problem on older cars?

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Post by guywithahat »

MostlyStable wrote: post #308
aidenn0 wrote: post #253

For anyone curious, if you made a similarly sized gas-powered pickup with an i4 engine, it would be penalized more than a full-sized pickup for being too fuel inefficient, despite likely getting much better mileage than an F-150 because, since 2011, bigger cars are held to a lesser standard by CAFE[1]. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_average_fuel_economy...

Example #5621 that a simple carbon tax would be miles better than the complex morass of regulations we currently have.

I don’t think it would be possible to produce a carbon tax that’s simple

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Post by CommenterPerson »

taylodl wrote: post #43

I LOVE it! THIS is the kind of truck I'd be looking at to replace my 1998 Ford Ranger. Here is what could be potential deal-breakers: - Lack of a mobile app. Minimalist design is great, but I still want an app to manage charging and be alerted to any vehicle issues. - Lack of good charge management and battery conditioning. Either that, or a cheap and easy to replace battery pack. I'd really like both! - Comparable h…

The subheading said Digital Detox. Means no App. For apps, get a Muskmobile .. the ones running with high beams on all the time.
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