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Post by profmonocle »

Funes- wrote: post #475
robotnikman wrote: post #397

I did some digging and the hacker posted which exploit he used. Apparently some boards allowed uploading PDF files, but the site never checked if the PDF file was an actual PDF file. Once a PDF file was uploaded it was passed to a version of Ghostscript from 2012 which would generate a thumbnail. So the attacker found an exploit where uploading a PDF with the right PostScript commands could give the attacker shell ac…

Reminds me of how people were crashing the PSP's XMB with BMP and TIFF files twenty years ago. I was just a kid, and began "pirating" every one of my classmates' consoles (some in exchange for a small amount of money). Good times.

When the first-gen iPhone was out there was a TIFF vulnerability so bad that you could jailbreak an iPhone just by visiting a specific web site. I remember going to Best Buy and seeing all of the display phones had been jailbroken. (It was easy to tell - this was before the App Store, so having extra app icons on the home screen wasn't normal.)

This was a user-empowering application of the vulnerability. Obviously, a bug that allows root-level arbitrary code execution just by getting the user to load a single image could be used for some pretty bad stuff. (And perhaps was.)

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Post by codexon »

immibis wrote: post #470
codexon wrote: post #379

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I would say that reddit quality has declined a huge amount, but people won't leave because there's a huge network effect. Nobody will join a reddit clone that is 95% functionally the same because there's nobody there. Every community that tried to migrate off reddit to a reddit clone has failed. As an example of why reddit is so bad now (aside from the obvious moderation issues) about 1-2 years ago, reddit added a bl…

Is there any evidence that most of Reddit is actually real people (paid shills and bots don't count)?

reddit may have shills and bots but even if they were 90% of the population, they still have way more users than anything like voat, saidit, etc...

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Post by SkyeCA »

Hamuko wrote: post #380
LinuxBender wrote: post #364

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I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. I believe that's fair. Sure, it's "a different board" but it's just another URL on the same domain and same administrator, just different janitors. So it is really the part of the whole website. I know that 99% of people on 4chan disagree with me because they do not wish to be associated with /pol/ /b/ /gif/ but if they wanted to disassociate themselves wi…

Do people also treat Reddit the same way?

They do not. Reddit is a big corporate social media site and largely gets a pass in online discourse despite the horrible communities that do and have existed there.

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Post by geriatric-janny »

api wrote: post #394
_345 wrote: post #238

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it is, and unfortunately from 2016 onwards it kind of outgrew the rest of the site like a tumorous growth until the whole site became markedly more neonazi and less goofy. something to do with donald trump i suspected

I've heard multiple times about a bit of lore that holds that 4chan once tried to brigade Stormfront, causing Stormfront to brigade back, and that was how the cross pollination occurred and started turning 4chan fascist. No idea if this is true but it sounds plausible.

In its earliest years /b/ started prank calling the radio show of nazi Hal Turner, then messed with Stomfront as the conflict widened. There was little activist component to this. They just thought it was funny to rile up people who took themselves very seriously.

I don't think there was any real reverse colonisation. 4chan's userbase was always whimsically racist and A Wyatt Mann cartoons were everywhere long before the conflict. moot and WT Snacks implemented some interesting word filters that I can't repeat here without my post getting hidden. Everyone was hateful, but not full of hate.

I think very little has changed in twenty years really. Feral male behaviour is just arbitrarily right-coded now, when it wasn't during the Bush era. Most of the kids screaming bix nood probably voted Obama in 08. Politics is window dressing on timeless brand of petulant contrarianism.

If you're a parent, teacher, or intelligence officer worried about a "crisis of radicalisation", the worst thing you can do is take this stuff seriously. Just call your son gay until he grows out of it.

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Post by AgentME »

Calinterman wrote: post #313
flmontpetit wrote: post #140

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It used to be a diverse place without much to tie all the boards and users together save for a shared commitment to counter-culture. Then GamerGate and Donald Trump happened. "Every board is /pol/" was one of the most frequent replies you would see for a while until all the halfway decent people left. /g/ is where I and a lot of people learned about FOSS advocacy and now it's just gamer hardware and transphobia.

Gamergate and Donald Trump was a 4-6 year period depending on where you put the needle. There were 10 years before it and now close to 5 years after it. The people who continue to hammer about it are just announcing that they don't understand the site and are complaining about ancient history. The most popular board right now is the video game generals board, and second place belongs to the regular video games board.

The site was markedly different before and after those events. /pol/ didn't exist before those events and aggressive alt-right rants didn't constantly leak into every other board from it (and get treated with kid gloves or be allowed by mods, who were specifically instructed to do so).

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Post by AnnaRiot »

wickedsight wrote: post #49
swarnie wrote: post #33

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Aren't we 99% sure that was a Ron Watkins grift now?

That's why I wrote 'the original'. It's very possible Watkins took control after Q moved from 4Chan to 8Chan from what I've read. I'm far from fully up-to-date on this saga though.

I am pretty sure Q was originally started by the guys behind Cicada3301 before Ron took over

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Post by wcfields »

ren_engineer wrote: post #398
sgarland wrote: post #139

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> bodybuilding.com Obligatory post about the dumbest argument to ever be had online [0]. It’s so good, the Wikipedia entry [1] has a section devoted to it. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20240123134202/https://forum.bod... [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding.com

lol that was a bait thread, this is the same place that had a discussion on whether a pitbull could defeat the Sun if it snuck up on it at night

Do you have a link or reference to this? I'm going to be thinking about this for weeks now.

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Post by tomlockwood »

FiniteField wrote: post #509
codexon wrote: post #375

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> I feel too many people conflate /pol/ with the whole website. Because it is the 2nd most active category, and the racist/alt-right beliefs have spread to the other boards because the head admin fires anyone that tries to moderate it. https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-helped-turn-4cha... On top of that, they actively delete and ban posts that go against alt-right. I discussed it somewhat recently here: htt…

All of this sentiment is many years out of date. "Alt-right" hasn't been a term of self-identification for almost a decade, and hasn't been used as an identifier by pretty much anyone for at least half of that. /pol/ is not the epicentre of the radical online right and has not been for years - it's a backwater in that regard now. The most notable radicalisation happening on /pol/ nowadays, in my opinion, is a kind of…

Interesting input, thanks for sharing!

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Post by zahlman »

lesbolasinc wrote: post #254
1970-01-01 wrote: post #163

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This is a pretty good take! It's because you could verbally attack and fight the 4chan idiots with a swarm of common sense and be lauded for doing that job. Doing the same on X will just get you banned for whatever reason Elon feels is best 'for the community'.

I dont understand why twitter is so prevalent in the tech community; and it's not like you can just 'not use it' - you are at a true disadvantage if you aren't on twitter because of how much discourse around new tech, private equity, etc transpires on it. I'm surprised a literal echo-chamber in which free speech is suppressed for disagreeing with the party line is responsible for so much productivity because of how m…

>What happened to the time where being a techbro meant you were an open source libertarian like Stallman?

As far as I've ever been able to tell, Stallman's positions are much closer to socialism. Perhaps you're thinking of ESR?

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Post by lupusreal »

giraffe_lady wrote: post #158
krige wrote: post #100

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Their question was a gotcha attempt, and a misguided one at that, hence the answer specifically not playing along.

Once you've made this many comments about it and are still unwilling to describe the acts you're defending I would certainly call that playing.

You're clearly confused. This conversation is about 4chan jannies, not reddit moderators. They don't ban you for posting racial slurs or fascist rhetoric, or any other traditionally offensive material.

Make a thread about Chinese naval buildup or related strategic developments in the Pacific on /k/; banned for "off topic". Get into an argument with a user who turns out to be a janny; banned for "trolling". Respond to a funny /tv/ thread memeing on some TV show, banned for "responding to off topic threads". Post a dozen pictures of rockets in the spaceflight general being raided by some /pol/tard who thinks space is fake, get banned for "spamming".

The jannies are arbitrary and capricious. Three day bans can't be appealed so they hand them out like candy.

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