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Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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kortilla wrote: post #503
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #497

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>> Much like what I am doing here to what I assume is a group exceeding 100+ members. > Under an anonymous account to people you don’t have to see in person. Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? Perhaps it would for people whom enjoy trolling. I do not and have no reason to think you do either. So we are left to stand on what we post here, with no other connec…

> Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? Absolutely. There is no threat of permanent harm. You just lose your karma count and make a new account > Perhaps it would for people whom enjoy trolling. I do not and have no reason to think you do either. Not related to trolling at all. It’s about being able to express opinions you genuinely believe without fear of effe…

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Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by AdieuToLogic »

kortilla wrote: post #503
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #497

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Much like what I am doing here to what I assume is a group exceeding 100+ members. > Under an anonymous account to people you don’t have to see in person. Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? Perhaps it would for people whom enjoy trolling. I do not and have no reason to think you do either. So we are left to stand on what we post here, with no other connec…

> Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? Absolutely. There is no threat of permanent harm. You just lose your karma count and make a new account > Perhaps it would for people whom enjoy trolling. I do not and have no reason to think you do either. Not related to trolling at all. It’s about being able to express opinions you genuinely believe without fear of effe…

>> Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values?

> Absolutely. There is no threat of permanent harm. You just lose your karma count and make a new account

This is a myopic definition of harm and one whose identified remedy is trivialization.

>> So we are left to stand on what we post here, with no other connection, no other commonality, only to accept each other for the thoughts we exchange

I was referring to interaction in this forum.

> We’re comparing to WhatsApp with your neighbors where everything you have said can be used against you in real life, reported to your employer, church, etc. It’s nothing like posting on an anonymous forum only attached to real life voluntarily and without verification

Everything a person SMS's, email, and/or speaks with neighbors "can be used against you in real life, reported to your employer, church, etc."

The medium used does not negate the possibility of treachery.

Finally:

  Think about something as basic as a gay man publishing 
  about being gay while living in a country where that is 
  illegal.
To which I retort; think about something as basic as an introvert making public their thoughts for unknown people to analyze, dissect, and formulate whatever response they like.

Maybe the severity of risks are specific to those who undertake them?

Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by chrz »

drcongo wrote: post #382
sokoloff wrote: post #296

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I can recognize and name more dogs on our block than people.

Ha, me too. I have a terrible mental block with human names but for some reason I can hold the names of 100 dogs in my head.

are you me? Maybe we should pretend people are dogs so we can remember their names

Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by lazyasciiart »

CalRobert wrote: post #384
reverius42 wrote: post #369

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Good luck convincing someone who lives on a half acre 10 minutes from downtown to give that up.

Offering to make them multimillionaires in exchange for the land so you can build apartments should work

Apartments are banned in about 70% of seattle residential land. Here are the things you are allowed to build: https://www.seattle.gov/documents/Departments/SDCI/Codes/Nei...

Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by abustamam »

jimbokun wrote: post #73
happytoexplain wrote: post #4

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>just lots of people occupying neighboring space and rarely talking to each other. This is a bitter stereotype that is leveled against both city-dwellers and suburb-dwellers, and, like many stereotypes, has some truth to it in both cases, but amounts to uncalled-for negativity. Some people don't want to interact with their neighbors, regardless of whether they live in a city or a suburb. Others are sociable with thei…

Suburbs often have physical constraints with the way houses are laid out making this "stoop coffee" approach more difficult, if anything. Houses laid out in a way that you're more likely to drink your coffee on your back patio surrounded by a fence or hedges to avoid being seen. And even if you are sitting in front of your house, neighbors are more likely to be driving by instead of walking so not very likely to stop…

I live in the burbs and I feel like almost everyone in the neighborhood has a dog. No matter what time I'm leaving my house, there's always someone walking their dog. Of course some times are busier than others, but I feel like dog walking itself can become a pretty good sense community.

I don't have a dog though.

Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by kortilla »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #512
kortilla wrote: post #503

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> Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? Absolutely. There is no threat of permanent harm. You just lose your karma count and make a new account > Perhaps it would for people whom enjoy trolling. I do not and have no reason to think you do either. Not related to trolling at all. It’s about being able to express opinions you genuinely believe without fear of effe…

>> Does this lessen the fear of being rebuked when sharing thoughts in a public forum one values? > Absolutely. There is no threat of permanent harm. You just lose your karma count and make a new account This is a myopic definition of harm and one whose identified remedy is trivialization. >> So we are left to stand on what we post here, with no other connection, no other commonality, only to accept each other for th…

An introvert engaging in a conversation is not the same level of harm as someone’s life being destroyed because they are outed to a government.

> Maybe the severity of risks are specific to those who undertake them?

No. Your feelings getting hurt because someone said something mean about something you said that isn’t even attributable to your real identity is extremely low risk.

Re: Stoop Coffee: A simple idea transformed my neighborhood

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Post by Rayvn7 »

A spreadsheet is not very "community". And most definitely, demanding you to suddenly allow extreme surveillence against you, and to also own a smartphone, and to also install things on the smartphone and be physically able to do so as well, is most DEFINITELY not a "community". By this definition of talking to your immediate neighbors and knowing the whole neighborhood and whatnot.
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