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I'm the Canadian who was detained by ICE for two weeks

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As a lawful permanent resident, I'm terrified of the country I've called home for a quarter century. I don't think I would have survived what the Canadian woman went through. EDIT: please call your congressperson and your senators. Tell them to stop this cruelty.

Not sure if you read the whole article. But what REALLY scared me is not this women's experience, but the stories of the other people she met there:

>I met a woman who had been on a road trip with her husband. She said they had 10-year work visas. While driving near the San Diego border, they mistakenly got into a lane leading to Mexico. They stopped and told the agent they didn’t have their passports on them, expecting to be redirected. Instead, they were detained. They are both pastors.

That, and a couple of other stories of people stuck there in the ICE concentration camps are crazy! I am scared right now because in a couple of months I have to travel to LA (on a tourist visa) for a connecting flight to Japan ... to think that I can be "disappeared" at immigration just because the immigration agent doesn't like me is chilling.

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Yes. This is the reality of how it is. It’s unfair that this woman was caught in this but CBP have ultimate power crossing the border can be scary. My friend got her visa stripped and given a 10 year ban under Obama because of jokes in her text messages about a GC marriage. She didn’t get thrown in jail but she was refused entry back into the US and had to get someone to sell all her stuff while she flew back to her…

"It’s even worse in other countries." It's not. I take you are comparing to western countries. If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues. Only in the USA some border agents have the attitude of "I'm gonna get you" or making you feel unwelcome for no reason. Hell, even in "authoritarian" countries like UAE or Quatar I never experience anything but pleasant in…

>> If you have a valid visa and behave even remotely normal to the border agents you will have no issues.

This is the crux IMO: it should be an OR not an AND. Having to behave "remotely normal" where this is determined solely at the discretion of the TSA is impossible.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I agree with you, it is observably true that many people take different positions on the issue and then demonize those who disagree with them, converting it into a partisan issue. Another commenter (now deleted) made the claim that, saying an issue shouldn't be partisan is “ just saying ‘everyone should believe what I do’ but in the lexicon of people who look down their nose at the general public. ” They added,…

And here in lies the problem: wedge issues. Taking something, blowing it out of proportion and turning into a partisan issue on purpose. Abortion, LGBTQ rights, immigration. It becomes impossible to have nuanced, rational discussion about those topics, and its on purpose. One side thrives off of making them emotional, hot-button issues. Shunning discussion of it here or elsewhere because it's an emotional, hot-button…

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Disingenuous take, did you even read the article? 1) She was not detained in connection with any crime whatsoever. At no point was her company's use of THC stated as a reason for detainment. 2) You have invented the idea that her second job was fake. If it were, then fraud could have been a crime and reason for detainment- but again, the article makes it clear no crime was charged or cited. 3) You are right that plen…

After a long interrogation, the officer told me it seemed “shady” and that my visa hadn’t been properly processed. He claimed I also couldn’t work for a company in the US that made use of hemp – one of the beverage ingredients. i don't know what hemp is or how is related to THC.

Hemp is used to make rope.

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This whole debacle scares me. It’s almost impossible to figure out the official reason she was flagged by the first border officer. She had a prior denial for a work visa. Then flew into San Diego to apply the second time and got it. Apparently, she should’ve applied via her consulate instead because of the prior denial ? Can someone explain in non legal terms why this resulted in a visa revocation and detention?

If you've previously been denied a visa you're no longer able to use the visa on arrival system. Hence you need to apply for a visa before you travel.

I think the question is: why were they even let in at the border crossing if it wasn't a valid entry? Shouldn't they have been turned back there?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please engage with the issue instead of making emotional appeals. You're saying this isn't a problem at all? What about the rights of the women affected by the bad actor(s)? Do you have some proposed solution for identifying the "one person" doing bad behavior? The Democratic Party refused to grapple with these questions either and their electoral loss is going to do far more harm to trans rights than some…

What actual policies prevent bad behavior?

In the case of prison policy, keeping prisoners strictly separated by sex, with no transfers of male prisoners into women's prisons allowed, under any circumstances.

Prisons should of course have safeguarding policy for further separation of vulnerable inmates within the prison.

Interestingly this is exactly what male prisoners with a transgender identity were requesting, according to https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/10/19/chase-strangio...:

> He teamed up with Lorena Borjas, the unofficial den mother to transgender Latinx women in New York City, to start the bail fund for transgender immigrants, and he joined a working group of lawyers who were drafting recommendations for President Obama's Department of Justice on the incarceration of trans people. "We asked people in prison what they needed, and they all said that they wanted a trans unit," Strangio said. But the lawyers in the working group, including Strangio, believed that L.G.B.T. units were stigmatizing, and only served to perpetuate the prison system.

However they were ignored, and instead of this, a policy of transferring males to women's prisons was introduced.

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I've been issued a five year bar for visiting someone in the US while unemployed. My immigration lawyer told me it's the weakest case he had ever seen. It took two years for the appeal to be approved. I had worked in the US on TN visas twice before, and never overstayed. It felt like they were just trying to meet a quota. Edit: I had applied for a GC years before this happened, so I think the officer thought I didn't…

Do you care to share more details? What questions did they ask and what were your replies?
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