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Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by user_7832 »

user_7832 wrote: post #419
erohead wrote: post #3

I'll be hanging out here - happy to answer any questions you have!

Not sure if you’ll see this but I’l love to understand - why the slightly weird (to me) differentiation between the two models’ sensors? One has heart rate (which might be considered almost fundamental for smart watches today), the other has magnetic/barometric sensors (which are very nice to have when out and moving)… but neither has both? Is the core 2 duo a “geeky” watch and the other one a “premium” product? I as…

(I’m here from 1 day after my comment) Btw I partially found an answer to the first question from the AMA on Reddit - the sensors on the duo were a kind of thanks to the person who helped design it.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by saagarjha »

dangus wrote: post #372
xahrepap wrote: post #346

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About 60 for me. I have to charge mine while working to get it to last a day :/

Just a tip with Apple watches: get the battery service at least once during the lifespan of your watch. It's $99 and Apple gives you a brand new watch. With that battery service the watch should last you about 6-10 years judging by the current status of my Series 4. Yes, a watch should be able to last a lot longer than that, but I think if you're buying Apple products you already have the expectation of a maximum 10…

Series 4 isn't getting updates anymore, though.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by Shawnj2 »

ponorin wrote: post #379
zhyder wrote: post #371

I'm super happy about the revival (I backed the first Pebble Kickstarter) and the bullet list of key features you're targeting would make my dream watch, but I hope you take this as constructive criticism that you're way off right now on this one: - Simple and beautiful design It's ugly, and the gap with the industrial design of today's watches is wider. I suggest contracting with a good industrial design firm to red…

it's unique, and it's not even that bad. you shouldn't compare this to the apple watches of the world when the screen itself could display 64 colours at best (monochrome at worst). the design language should line in perfectly with those from the pebble os. it's supposed to be quirky, not liking the looks of it just means you're not the target audience.

It's not the worst but the original Pebble Time Steel looks better IMO. I understand why they used a simpler case design (They don't have the resources to make anything like the PTS) but I still like the PTS design more. Maybe someone will come out with a custom case or something idk

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by morjom »

MostlyStable wrote: post #481
delecti wrote: post #467

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Would you mind sharing what those features are? About the only things I can think of that some phones used to have, but now largely don't, is removable battery, IR blaster, headphone jack, or keyboard. I can understand missing those features, even though they don't particularly matter to me.

I'm surprised you mentioned IR blaster, which is on my list, but I consider the second most niche one after FM tuner, which my current phone actually does have. Here's my list from what I consider most reasonable to most niche: Small size. I'm a 6'2" male, so my hands are probably pretty well above the population average. Maybe it's because I'm a lefty, but I hate how big phones have gotten. It makes one hand use alm…

Yeah I took a gander at GSMarena and your feature set hasn't been made past March of 2019 or so, which is a shame. I liked my Sony Xperia Compact, so if there ever was a pixel phone of that size I'd get one.

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Post by lproven »

maxglute wrote: post #471
lproven wrote: post #454

This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

Yeah commodity fitness trackers with a few custom buttons would go a long way to scratch pebble itch. Make Casio F91W fitness tracker a thing.

That's my point -- such things do exist already. Amazfit is an example.

They give you the fitness-tracking functionality of a pure-play fitness band, plus they sync to your phone so you get notifications on your wrist -- answer and reject calls, read messages, reply with a thumbs-up or whatever -- and you get the fun stuff like customisable watch faces.

And they are well under $100.

It's already a product category, but many people seem unaware it exists.

Much the same as the high-end budget smartphones. I've had a couple of decent capable modern Android phones that were under $200 new. This is a thing that exists, but the folks that follow fashion don't seem to realise.

I spent years being relatively poor and in serious debt. You learn to live without luxuries, but if you're smart, you find the ways to get good stuff cheap.

A $150 smartphone can deliver 90% of the functionality of a $1000 smartphone. In the same way, a $75 smartwatch can deliver 70-80% of the functionality of a $500 watch.

And TBH, I know which I prefer. Phones and watches live hard lives, for electronics, and they are easily lost, stolen, dropped, broken, etc.

I would rather have a $200 phone in my pocket than a $1000 one, because I know the risks, and if the 4-digit-price one gets damaged or vanishes, that hurts my budget... but I can tolerate a low-3-digit loss more easily.

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Post by lproven »

lnenad wrote: post #468
sundarurfriend wrote: post #455

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I felt the same way, but this thread seems to be full of people primed by Apple Watch pricing. Not sure how much that will translate to purchases in the end though, in my experience these folks are likely to leave a glowing comment and then just stick to their Apple Watches. As someone who just wanted a low-frills smartwatch and was following repebble for that, I'm disappointed and have unsubscribed from their update…

> primed by Apple Watch pricing This is a weird take. An avg price for a normal watch is $100-$200. This is a watch with a lot more functionalities that a quartz movement, and the production run is much smaller. I think the price is very fair not taking into account the price of an Apple Watch.

> An avg price for a normal watch is $100-$200.

No, it really is not.

Take off a zero.

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Post by lproven »

sfilmeyer wrote: post #473
lproven wrote: post #454

This sounded to me like a device I might want, but the price is offputting to me. $150 is not cheap device. It's nearly 10x the used price of the smartwatch I wearing right now. The CEO did a Reddit AMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/pebble/comments/1jea5cc/ama_with_er... I am surprised by his comment there: « Honestly 5 years seems pretty good for a $150 consumer gadget. » So, its creator feels that a $150 watch is cheap…

I don't think "consumer gadget" comes across particularly negatively or dismissively, and don't see this playing out at all like the Ratner's case. Also, it seems like you might be a bit anchored to the low end of the smartwatch price spectrum from your own preferences, but I don't think it's particularly expensive among major smartwatch brands. Apple has by far the biggest market share, but I also tried to piece tog…

Interesting argument. Thanks.

It's making me re-assess what I thought were the goals of the Pebble project. Maybe it's not for me.

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Post by nelblu »

ajolly wrote: post #497
nelblu wrote: post #482

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Thanks. Sorry if it was vague. Basically my first preference would be to not have any need to connect to a mobile phone (so no android or apple). And if that is not possible it is preferable to connect via de-googled Android. I guess I need to find out whether Pebble App sync works on GrapheneOS, and whether Pebble App sync requires internet/data permission - just trying to make sure the data doesn't leave my phone.

You need a mobile phone since they don't have internet access directly. After that you should be totally fine, what are you hoping for your smartwatch to do? I primarily use my pebble for notifications from my phone to show up on my watch which doesn't require any sort of external access.

I need it to track my heart rate. I am actually also looking forward to something that can track my blood-pressure, but I am not sure whether the technology is there yet. A device that can do offline tracking would be ideal, ability to sync with a USB cable would be icing on the cake.

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Post by theragra »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #272
isjustintime wrote: post #34

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Personally I never found myself using my NFC payment watch. It felt like if I was venturing far enough to the store, I'm just going to bring my phone with me anyways. I wonder if this differs for areas that don't get as much suburban sprawl.

I personally don't use NFC payment at all. I just can't see the utility in it. If I leave the house I have my wallet, and I find it easier to take my card out of my wallet than to fiddle with NFC on my phone.

How is that fiddling? Just put the phone to the terminal, that's it. Sometimes press finger to the fingerprint sensor.

For card, you need to get the wallet, get the card from the wallet, and then put it back.

Some people don't use wallet or put it close, because I only need wallet to pay or use loyalty card, and I can do that with my phone.

Re: Two new PebbleOS watches

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Post by theragra »

lproven wrote: post #515
maxglute wrote: post #471

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah commodity fitness trackers with a few custom buttons would go a long way to scratch pebble itch. Make Casio F91W fitness tracker a thing.

That's my point -- such things do exist already. Amazfit is an example. They give you the fitness-tracking functionality of a pure-play fitness band, plus they sync to your phone so you get notifications on your wrist -- answer and reject calls, read messages, reply with a thumbs-up or whatever -- and you get the fun stuff like customisable watch faces. And they are well under $100. It's already a product category, b…

Amazfit bip was nice, but I encountered a bug with GPS data loss too often. That is the price of the cheap Chinese product, I guess. So, when my Bip have been damaged, I decided to buy Garmin for 250€ instead. So far, it works well.
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