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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by HeckFeck »

t-3 wrote: post #305
HeckFeck wrote: post #164

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I live in a region of the UK where rhoticity is alive and well. It actually means I've an easier time understanding some words when Americans speak them, compared to the English. On the broader point I'd agree up until I notice that you'd write 'defense' yet also 'fence', and ponder why the verb 'got' is so overused.

I'll just say that I sometimes use defense because the Firefox spellchecker seems to prefer UK spellings even when US English is set in the language settings and the red squiggly lines bother me.

Sssh, you weren’t meant to notice! We have a man on the inside.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by gtsop »

carlgreene wrote: post #451

Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way

Not arguing with what you said (not agreeing either) but i want to add a perspective.

Not all human discussion can happen in forum-like format. Quick disposable chats are also usefull for when you're in a state of "figuring things out" where quick and short feedback help you navigate a problem rather than reading long well-researched well-formatted replies.

There must be room for both modes: the "thinking about it now" is in chat and the "having thought about it" is in SO, forums, documentation etc etc.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by klabb3 »

remram wrote: post #470
carlgreene wrote: post #451

Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way

Nowadays "indexable locations" mean "crawled by big tech to feed your likeness to their AI". It's hard to advocate for now.

Bingo! I changed my mind about this after AI. (Specifically that they are allowed to train & commercialize any IP they want without license - I have nothing against AI itself)

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by TZubiri »

Mashimo wrote: post #506
TZubiri wrote: post #244

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Because it's a video game accesory. They market to kids, and have kid safety features.

I don't use discord in combination with games at all. But you can use it that way. That does not mean it's only for kids.

I mean the logo is a game controller.

If your company uses discord as a tool to communicate, it gives the message that it's like a game to you, that it is not serious, that you are relaxed,etc..

Certainly not the right register for serious stuff like an IT company, tax company, weapons, etc...

And it's not just semantics, the app was built for gaming, it has features and design choices built for that, one of them being kid safety. Not a corporate tool like slack.

If you are into that great, but it's what it is.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by TZubiri »

verdverm wrote: post #360
TZubiri wrote: post #58

Reminder that discord is an app for kids. Is your open source code and volunteer run project going to keep kids safe? Is it an advantage that the comms protocols are open and everyone can build bots? Or a disadvantage for this usecase? Also, how is it an alternative for Discord if it's in a whole different jurisdiction?

This is an outdated perspective. A lot of open source projects are picking Discord now that Slack has become hostile to small projects. The vast majority of the Discord groups I am in have nothing to do with gaming

I mean the logo is a game controller. If your company uses discord as a tool to communicate, it gives the message that it's like a game to you, that it is not serious, that you are relaxed,etc..

Certainly not the right register for serious stuff like an IT company, tax company, weapons, etc...

And it's not just semantics, the app was built for gaming, it has features and design choices built for that, one of them being kid safety, another being it shows what game you are playing. Not a corporate tool like slack.

If you are into that great, but it's what it is.

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by Mashimo »

opan wrote: post #281
Mashimo wrote: post #227

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> We usually had local logs we could grep and web-indexed/searchable logs from bots. But only IF you are good at regex. On discord you can easily filter by date or date range, if it has media, if it contains an URL or what user/roll got mentioned.

I still use IRC, irssi in particular. My go-to for searching local logs is `less` rather than grep. I have the date on every line in the log file. I can jump to a specific date easily, then search a different term up/down from that spot, and I see context of surrounding lines easily. No regex needed.

How would you search for a messaged that contains an image that mentioned you?

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by Ntrails »

brnaftr361 wrote: post #447
Pikamander2 wrote: post #284

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It was a little bit of everything, really. Discord exploded in popularity because: 1. Its free functionality was more generous than many comparable services. Nobody wants to pay for a Mumble server. 2. Its UI and audio quality and noise cancellation settings put much of the competition to shame. 3. Only needing one account for every Discord server in existance gave it the same kind of appeal that let Reddit/Facebook…

The UI is awful, Discord volume isn't exposed, no option to do it, either, so you have to adjust game audio or individual user audio. They put the whole kitchen sink in, for some reason, too, there's a text chat in the voice rooms that needs to be user-revealed for some reason, instead of being exposed by default. Most of it is unintuitive at first use. Then there's the many contraindications e.g. privacy policy, wal…

If I haven't used discord in a while I will get stuck in a voice chat and cannot for the life of me figure out how to exit. I clicked on the channel name to enter, but I can't exit from there. Clicking on other channels doesn't get me out etc etc.

Just funny to find myself knowing I've got this wrong before and being annoyed at myself _and_ at them

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by immibis »

surajrmal wrote: post #226
1oooqooq wrote: post #203

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that's like selling email with gpg as easy to use compared with newgroup. anything win when compared to the ultimate underdog. but that's hardly a valid comparisons. discord only win from other opensource forums because you don't have to own a domain, i guess.

Like reddit or Facebook groups? Discord being realtime chat is an important part as well. I don't think it was necessarily competing with traditional forums that are post and thread based.

Do you though? Do you drop everything to answer notifications as they pop up, or do you answer them at your convenience?

Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord

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Post by culi »

UberFly wrote: post #439
culi wrote: post #425

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Same thing can be said about Twitter and most of Facebook

For now at least. Some day everyone's relatives will be digging through databases of their ancestor's grand wisdom filleted wide open. Maybe it'll even use all that info to recreate an Ai version of them. Sorry just thinking out loud.

That sounds awful. But there's no reason why Discord can't go the same route.

Some chat apps like Zulip have the option to open a channel to the web. It can even be indexed by search engine bots

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