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To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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Backup sensor suffices, unfortunately.

Not EU wide. At least in Spain, entry level cars don't have neither camera nor sensors

All newly sold vehicles in EU need to have either reversing camera or sensors starting from July 7, 2024

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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The safest bet in EVs is to buy one from the Korean manufacturers - they have the tech figured out (and have had it for a few years), they make everything from 'car but electric' to 'Jetsons spaceship', they're reasonably priced, they have cheap and abundant parts, have mechanics who know how to work on them, and they don't have an 'X' factor CEO.

I drive a 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 and I wouldn’t recommend it. I’ve had to deal with plenty of bugs and there’s some weird (although probably minor) UX issues, but the kicker is it’s now been at the dealership for over a month. It’s a complete brick because the ICCU died and it’s hard to get a replacement. I’m guessing because so many others have died as well. I also don’t think I’ve bent a single rim on any other car I…

ICCU issue affects a small % of ioniq 5's. Unlucky for you of course. Really like the car and recently I met taxi driver who uses one and said he has over 400k km on it and still doing well. There is one annoyance with the back seat belts which tend to flip after use, so the metal part of the seat belt hits the car frame making noise. Other than that its a really good car.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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I remember when i was a kid and the cars started dinging when your seat belt was unbuckled, and my family (and everyone we knew) went out and bought empty buckles that just plugged into the seat belt latch, to defeat the dinging and let you drive without your seatbelt in peace. I wonder if these still work to defeat the more and more aggressive warnings.

> drive without your seatbelt in peace That’s one very stupid way to die.

I wear my seat belt anytime I leave the driveway but I still want one of these things.

My car can't tell the difference between a person and my backpack on the passenger seat, but it dings regardless.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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If you translate the article and read it, you will find that there are a lot of reported issues with the headlights. It is hard to find exact information on the actual issue in detail, but I'd suspect it's about the calibration of the headlights in most cases. That's a minor issue and calling it a reliability problem doesn't seem accurate. Also quite conveniently, they don't really mention that Teslas have significan…

> you will find that there are a lot of reported issues with the headlights. Correct, but you just happen to leave out the mentioned issues with the brakes and axles as clearly stated in the article. > In addition to defects in the brakes and axles, the Tesla also has a particularly high number of lighting defects. If you want to point out issues, which is absolutely fair, please don't cherry-pick. > but I'd suspect…

Look, HN people don't like Tesla. A lot of German people in positions of power don't like Tesla. Suddenly an article appears that explicitly highlights Tesla vehicles as not passing TÜV because they allegedly have quality issues. The article mentions no details. If you search for details on Google, you get a list of very similar looking articles all citing the same statement from a TÜV person. None of those provide any details on the actual issues. If no details are provided, the only thing to do is guess.

It's really quite clear what's going on here.

The TÜV does not assess the reliability of a car. The reasons for a car failing an inspection after 3 years can be manifold. It doesn't mean that the car "won't age well" or anything along those lines.

If you dislike Tesla, then say it - it's fine. No need to support vague smear campaigns.

In fact, right now Tesla has the best electric car technology available on the market. Along with the best charging network available on the market. And the best software (light years ahead of the competition) on the market. Also they don't require you to service the car for a long time. That makes German people especially afraid that they lose their car manufacturing, selling and servicing business. And rightly so. No smear campaign and no comparing apples to oranges will save them from reforming and restoring their competitiveness in a very long painful process.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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If I was to buy a car these days (which I'm not, I don't have nearly enough money for that), I'd want something with as little "computer" in it as possible. Just a box with 4 wheels and an engine, or maybe a battery and a motor, maybe a heater for when it gets a bit cold, and I'll throw a bluetooth speaker in the back seat if I need something to listen to

It's literally illegal. In the EU, it's illegal to sell cars that don't have back camera, not beeping if seatbelt not fastened, and not beeping if speed limit is exceeded.

The backup camera is entirely analogue, zero computer required. All manufacturers use the same couple of camera modules which output standard composite video, which is why even nice cars have obvious analogue artifacts and distortions.

Even OEM headunits usually just consume a standard composite video input and switch to it when it has a signal.

This information is valid up until at least 2020, but it might be changing as cars get more advanced cameras and stupid-er head units. I bet Tesla just uses their existing cameras.

>not beeping if seatbelt not fastened

Also trivial to do with analogue electronics, which we have done for decades.

speed limit warnings are a dead end though. Impossible to do without some sort of technology to know what the "current" speed limit is.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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I remember when i was a kid and the cars started dinging when your seat belt was unbuckled, and my family (and everyone we knew) went out and bought empty buckles that just plugged into the seat belt latch, to defeat the dinging and let you drive without your seatbelt in peace. I wonder if these still work to defeat the more and more aggressive warnings.

When I was a kid, cars didn't even have seat belts in the back. I'm all for the extra safety, but if they make safety too annoying, people will start looking for workarounds.

People will look for workarounds regardless. Some people just become irrationally incensed if you suggest that they aren't perfect. It's really frustrating. There's an entire subset of the population that lives life explicitly thinking "Rules are for everyone else and I deserve everything"

Next time you go to the grocery store look at how many carts don't get put away. The exact same people who do that will freak out and start a war if their car gets scratched by a loose cart.

Don't believe my takes? Go to a local city or school board meeting and see the utter insanity that comes from people that you will be shocked to learn are a middle manager at some company or own their own small and successful business.

Some people genuinely don't get that the world isn't about them, and I think we have drastically underestimated the percentage.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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All software is like its makers full of attention-whoring. Its a nasty side-effect of the "identify with your work" ethics. Thus i propose a new job, the ux-castrator. His only job, is to traverse the software and excise out tumorous attention hogging growths and limitations based upon thee. Back to the chasm from which you came daemon, for the user needs not see you, know you, be aware of you and your works. You are…

The "Use feature ABC? Yes/Not now" dialog that shows up day by day until users click "Yes" increased usage of ABC by a significant amount!

Speaking of which, so many people here were wondering what specific shenanigans Google was getting at with forcing Gemini into google workspaces.

Well then they go on a superbowl ad and brag about "millions of people using Gemini"

Ladies and Gentlemen: You ever fake metrics for a commercial? I haven't.

Re: To buy a Tesla Model 3, only to end up in hell

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> We can see his actions and who he funds. I’m out of the loop here. Has Musk done anything related to nazi symbols (besides that weird gesture that some people say is a nazi salute), or funded Nazi organizations? EDIT: Why the downvotes?

After doing the "weird gesture", rather than apologising for doing something that many people interpreted as a nazi gesture, he made a load of crappy puns about it involving the names of various high-ranking nazi leaders

Maybe he shouldn't be apologizing for every unhinged accusation he gets?

Maybe the accusers should apologize?

Maybe they will come crawling on their knees in few months time to do so?

I don't know, but what I do like is that wokeism is slowly curing so he may have been onto something.

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