> iMac features a color-matched keyboard and mouse or trackpad... These accessories now come with USB-C ports, so users can charge all of their favorite devices with just a single cable
WOW!
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Putting the plug on the bottom is an intentional choice by Apple. It's because they don't want you to plug it in to charge, then never remember to unplug it. Mandatory wirelessness.
I'd sooner believe it's because they want you to buy 2 of them, so you can charge one while using the other.
Zero people on the planet do this.
The mouse port thing is like a canary in the coal mine, betraying the people who just like taking shots at Apple, but generally are very ill informed. I think Apple should keep the port on the bottom purely so we can get the shortcut to discarding people's opinions when they hoist it up to concern troll.
For actual Apple Mouse users, charging is just the least concerning thing imaginable. The battery lasts an absolute eternity. I'm using one right now that I've had for at least five or so years and I charge it once in forever, it charges super quickly, and it's just not a factor in my life at all.
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#51332gb RAM max? I don't understand, macbooks on battery power have 128gb, why this limitation on an always powered device
I believe it’s a limitation of the memory controller on the M4 chip. It can only address 32 gb of ram. Addressing more ram would require more die space
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> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them Why would anyone buy a Porsche? You can buy an F-150 with a >1 ton payload capacity, fit 6 people in it and if you get the EV version it might be even faster than the base config Porsche. The PC will take up a lot of space, use a lot more power, be loud and be look ugly. Some people might care about these things even if…
To be honest it's the Mac that feels clunky, at least compared to Linux. Why does every app have its own updater? Why are the animations so painfully slow?
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My daughter's orthodontist has one of these behind every chair. Our dentist has them too. HN honestly is a terrible source of information for 1) What sells 2) What might sell
That's fine, but personal anecdotes are also a hugely misleading source of information too. In the time since the iMac redesign was released, I've seen 10x more of the old models than I have seen of the new ones. My local barber even uses an Intel iMac in Target Display mode to run their Windows small-form-factor PC. HN is disillusioned, but so are a lot of the west coast product designers that expect businesses to b…
When I think cheap and works out of the box, Mac is the last thing on my mind.
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#516Since this thread seems to be about niche asks for pro users, despite the product being targeted towards casual users who want an easy out of the box experience, I'll add my own to the mix. I'd love a bigger/better screen on these, specifically an ultrawide variety. An iMac Pro with an 8k ultrawide would be a near-instant purchase for me. I find the ultrawide form factor so good for productivity. I love the apple "it…
Using a large 8K display for productivity is underrated. I wrote a blog post about my experience: https://daniel.lawrence.lu/blog/y2023m12d15/
You've convinced me, but it really shows the limitations for 16:9 when these are our options. Two largish 28" 4:3 monitors would be a nice middle ground.
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#517Right now, the Apple computer lineup is totally out of alignment for me. The iMac is too small and the laptops are too big. I'd like a minimum 27" display for the iMac, maybe 31". For a laptop, give me something more portable, like the old 2 pound, 12" MacBook.
I used to always buy MBP's, but the new gen are all those super thick and heavy models. I tried one and couldn't get used to the thickness or weight. At that point I may as well get a desktop.
I ended up buying M2 new MBA (from intel MBP), screen size similar enough, thickness good, weight good. And M2 is fast enough for 99% of the things I do. I did max the RAM to 24GB and wish there was more sometimes, and would love a faster SSD. Bot overall very happy.
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#518> iMac features a color-matched keyboard and mouse or trackpad... These accessories now come with USB-C ports, so users can charge all of their favorite devices with just a single cable WOW!
Oh thank god. Not a day goes by when I'm not thanking the powers that be in Europe for pressuring Apple to add USB-C to iphone.
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#519I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.
I'd be interested in numbers on some of this. From my view, the upgradability is a bit of a red herring for most users. Computers are fast enough for most uses that it just doesn't matter.
That's a really good point. It's been more than a decade since I last upgraded a computer.
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#520Apple makes some dubious claims: > Gamers can enjoy incredibly smooth gameplay, with up to 2x higher frame rates5 than on iMac with M1. What games do run on the Mac? Certainly, most AAA titles do not. >Compared to the most popular 24-inch all-in-one PC with the latest Intel Core 7 processor, the new iMac is up to 4.5x faster. You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair…
> You can build PCs there are more powerful than that Mac, cheaper. And you can easily repair them. Nobody’s buying a Mac to game. The gaming is a bonus for a segment of their market, is why they mention it at all. Zero Mac sales are motivated primarily by gaming. “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?” are thin…
Yes except so few games run. Even games I suspect don't need the power.
Examples: Cocoon, ufo50, Outer wilds, Harold Halibut, Noita
> “Does this do enough gaming, well enough, that I can avoid buying a Steamdeck, or that I can get rid of this bulky PC that I use only for gaming?”
I think the answer is "No". I'm writing this from a Mac. In the last year, so many games I've wanted to play while traveling, someone tells me about it, I go check it out, no mac version. I just have to wait until I get home.
Sometimes I get lucky, "A Short Hike", but more often than not there's no Mac version.