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Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

kccqzy wrote: post #177
mlajtos wrote: post #114

iPad mini 2024 with Pencil Pro and Math Notes is going to revolutionize math education.

That's like saying giving students a better calculator revolutionizes math education. Even giving students full access to Mathematica (which I think is worthwhile BTW) won't revolutionize it.

But better calculator does revolutionize math education. Math is about problem-solving – if I can use tool that speeds up the boring parts (those that can be automated), I can focus on what really matters. For example, doing logarithms with slide rule is slow. Computing logarithms with digital calculator is easy. Do person with slide rule has any advantage over person with calculator? What about reverse?

Wolfram Mathematica – it is designed for smart and highly educated people – CAS with M-expr LISP frontend isn't for everybody. Math Notes is designed for children of ages 6-99.

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Post by mlajtos »

wasabinator wrote: post #172
mlajtos wrote: post #114

iPad mini 2024 with Pencil Pro and Math Notes is going to revolutionize math education.

Ironic how one demonstrates a questionable grasp on maths if they think an expensive iDevice will revolutionise maths education for the masses.

Ironic how one demonstrates a questionable grasp on market dynamics if they think a feature of an expensive iDevice won't be copied by competitors and sold for less.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

rty32 wrote: post #147
mlajtos wrote: post #114

iPad mini 2024 with Pencil Pro and Math Notes is going to revolutionize math education.

I don't know which bubble you are in, but $499 + $129 for devices at MSRP is not going to revolutionize anything, especially just for maths. A $200 Chromebook can do 10x. Guess what, that's exactly why schools buy Chromebooks.

iPhone did less than competitors. Ultimately, Math Notes will get copied and sold for less.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by mlajtos »

hggigg wrote: post #125
mlajtos wrote: post #114

iPad mini 2024 with Pencil Pro and Math Notes is going to revolutionize math education.

Mathematician here. No it's really not. Having used it extensively it craps out all the time, fails to parse things properly, doesn't understand anything other than a very narrow undefined subset of anything that needs to be done and generally makes things harder. It sure looks like it would though. Noteful and a competent calculator with CAS functionality on the other hand might be a different outcome.

Parsing traditional 2D math notation is super hard problem and this is first public version. Things will get better with time.

But you hit the nail on the head with "narrow undefined subset". Documentation on Math Notes is almost non-existent. There are standards for math notation, so I guess they will announce it when they match parity. Again, too soon.

I agree that capabilities are extremely limited. More than CAS I would like to see native support for differentiable tensors – https://mlajtos.mu/posts/new-kind-of-paper-2

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Post by kazinator »

mlajtos wrote: post #511
kccqzy wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's like saying giving students a better calculator revolutionizes math education. Even giving students full access to Mathematica (which I think is worthwhile BTW) won't revolutionize it.

But better calculator does revolutionize math education. Math is about problem-solving – if I can use tool that speeds up the boring parts (those that can be automated), I can focus on what really matters. For example, doing logarithms with slide rule is slow. Computing logarithms with digital calculator is easy. Do person with slide rule has any advantage over person with calculator? What about reverse? Wolfram Math…

Calculating logs with a slide rule is fast! It's pure table lookup: slide the cursor to the input value, and read off the log from another row.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

yreg wrote: post #415
crossroadsguy wrote: post #388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's an Apple thing. They developed this habit (if not addiction) after bringing features to their devices very late, sometimes a decade later than their competitors. They thought it was better to call those basic features with fancy multi word names with ™ symbols at the end and that resonates with their fan base in perfect harmony. So I think the habit stuck.

Oh yes, because the other companies don't call machine learning 'intelligence' ;)

Whatabout fallacy.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

alexellisuk wrote: post #370

If Apple's listening.. a 120Hz would have sold this for me. I'm still on a 2018 iPad Pro because the upgrade isn't worth the enormous cost including a basic keyboard and pencil, and the only device that has a 120Hz drawing experience is that iPad Pro. For anyone who thinks the pencil on a 60Hz screen is "great", you need to try it on an iPad Pro next time you're in the apple store. You'll see the difference between t…

But how else are they meant to make their trillions

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

lynguist wrote: post #398

I want this but why no OLED? :'( iPhone went OLED in 2017. And they didn’t OLED the poor iPad mini (the best iPad) in a newly released model in 2024!? :'(

They want you to buy the pro. Helps contribute to their trillions profits. Same with low iPhone models only getting 60hz now. Maybe they should have branded it with their usual marketing bullshit jargon

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Post by fennecbutt »

RIMR wrote: post #158

All of this looks good, but if they want to retain trust with artists, the last thing they should be doing is integrating generative AI tools into their art programs. Creatives are getting more and more frustrated with the AI tools showing up in places like Windows or in Photoshop. For the first time ever I am meeting career artists and designers who are actively looking to add non-AI alternatives to their usual tool…

Yet "creatives" have been using PS etc this whole time as a way to magnify their skills anyway, the hypocrites. Using a PS brush the machine is doing 50-90% of the work for them, and therefore what they're producing isn't art, according to their recent dichotomy.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fennecbutt »

mbirth wrote: post #489
paul7986 wrote: post #325

Apple Intelligence more like Apple Idiotic as ... - Today the summary it gave to an iMessage was "Going to sleep, talk to you tomorrow." The girl and I scheduled a video chat date and she said nothing of the sort rather, "Getting ready for tomorrow (along with some other stuff), talk to you soon." - Siri is still stupid especially compared to ChatGPT on the same iPhone. I use ChatGPT.. speak to it to count my calorie…

Now turn off the Internet connection and try talking to ChatGPT again...

Funnily enough, your car doesn't float. So don't try using it as a boat.
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