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Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by r2_pilot »

wodenokoto wrote: post #474

There’s a lot of “I wanted to like the rm2, but” which scares me from buying the pro. Anyone have experience with their 100 days risk free program?

Not presently, but I may possibly have impulse-bought the Pro (nearly got Rm2 but held back for the tech to improve - on paper this seems to be the case for the Pro), and I'm already reconsidering it so I probably will have some experience with that program soon.(n. b. They are not a functional company and cannot cancel orders that have been placed, FYI)

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by eythian »

kkfx wrote: post #405

Well... While I admire reMarkable in technical terms, I'll not buy a black box where I have to hack the box just to manage my system. I do not care much about handwriting recognition and other "cool solution to help the end user", I do care about no eye strain reading of LONG damn documents, where scrolling distract instead of help, and casual ability to draw things. Period. Unfortunately they took a classic commerci…

Do you mean hack the box in "go to this page in the settings where it tells you the root password", or something else?

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by wpm »

paulcole wrote: post #508
destraynor wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100 times this. The hardware is great. The software sucks. I literally can't believe in 2024 it's still not straight forward to "send a blog post from my phone to my remarkable" without some mangling happening along the way. It was genuinely jawdropping for me, I ended up contacting an employee on LinkedIn to confirm that this wasn't a well supported workflow

It’s 2024, like 6 people read blog posts lol. Not surprising they don’t support this. Sending a PDF from phone to Remarkable is dead simple.

Friend, like 50% of the content on this website is blog posts. Are there only six of us? Are all these accounts just bots? Are you even real? Am I even real????

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by catchmost »

freilanzer wrote: post #332
_benj wrote: post #290

I had an iPad Air, which I changed for a reMarkable 2 and I couldn't be happier! I see a lot of people here commenting about the limitations of it, and I get it. For me personally those limitations are features. My needs are mostly note taking and reading technical PDFs, and for that the reMarkable is fantastic. I used it extensively while taking Calculus, which, it was great to use as many pages as I needed and to w…

> My needs are mostly note taking and reading technical PDFs, and for that the reMarkable is fantastic. I do both of those and I dislike the RM2. There's little space for notes above and below the PDF page, no infinite canvas. I have more space on the back of a printed PDF (to the left of the current text page) than in the RM2. So, all note taking in a PDF for me is just keywords, while I would much prefer to put tex…

Try checking for software updates? My RM2 got infinite canvas in an update some time ago.

That said, I don't really use that feature and find it annoying when I accidentally move the canvas instead of turning to the next page.

This whole paper tablet space looks like a place full of tradeoffs where it's hard to please everyone... IMHO overall remarkable is doing that balancing act quite well.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by wpm »

MayeulC wrote: post #239
lidavidm wrote: post #164

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Yeah. Still way more effort than Kobo: plug it in, drag and drop.

What's wrong with the USB web interface of the remarkable, though? It is quite spartan, but I haven't updated mine in ages, so I imagine they have improved it. The workflow is plug -> web browser -> remarkable IP -> drag and drop.

What does the customer gain from having a web interface you have to navigate to by IP rather than a simple external storage device that shows up like a flash drive?

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by thimabi »

noname120 wrote: post #418
thimabi wrote: post #179

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I concur. For a device of that price, size, and considering the reading and note-taking use case, only 229 ppi is abysmal. Why cut corners in a key part of the product?

E Ink has a monopoly on microcapsule displays and the prices are incredibly high. The device would be much more expensive if they used the high-density display. As an example the E Ink Kaleido 3 screen part (only the screen!) costs $449[1] per piece: https://shopkits.eink.com/en/product/detail/13.3''Kaleido3eP...

I stand corrected. I failed to account for the fact that e-ink displays are pretty expensive, and those with color capabilities are much more.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by Ancapistani »

create-username wrote: post #415
Ancapistani wrote: post #412

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The rM2 at least allows you to screenshare wirelessly, which of course can be done while charging. I expect this one will be the same in that respect. The rM2 also "just runs linux" under the hood. I bet you could write a utility to screenshare over USB if you really wanted to.

Wirelessly using a pc connected to the screen. Which means I need a laptop as well.

Oh, you meant in-person sharing.

That's a use case I hadn't considered - I've not worked in an office in over a decade.

To my knowledge there's no quick solution there. It sounds like maybe this just isn't the device for you.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by paulcole »

wpm wrote: post #513
paulcole wrote: post #508

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It’s 2024, like 6 people read blog posts lol. Not surprising they don’t support this. Sending a PDF from phone to Remarkable is dead simple.

Friend, like 50% of the content on this website is blog posts. Are there only six of us? Are all these accounts just bots? Are you even real? Am I even real????

The guys my dad goes to the diner with still have cassette players in their trucks. When they look around they see other cassette listeners.

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by joshjob42 »

paulcole wrote: post #507
CapeTheory wrote: post #490

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I've been using a reMarkable since the first release and have never experienced what you describe. Yes, the updated focus on typing more recently - but what else can they really do for the writing experience without new hardware? Lots of updates I don't care about, but none that make it "worse".

The Remarkable “community” is full of people like this — especially on Reddit. 99% of the time they have some comically unique workflow that Remarkable “needs” to support or they want to read ebooks on the thing and have it be better than a Kindle (which they also hate) or something else that if they did any research before buying would have (hopefully) dissuaded them.

An eink device not being great at reading books is silly. These devices are especially compelling for academics, but Remarkable has no links to reference managers like Zotero. It also is radically dependent on your computer or phone for getting material on/off, when an integration with Readwise for instance would fit naturally into people’s flow and not require cluttering up the filesysten with temporary material like news articles. Search over handwriting is bad to impossible, and there’s no mechanism to link to another note or another page, a now standard feature on all competitors except the Kindle Scribe that helps solve the “I can’t flip back and forth in my notebook” problem common to all electronic notebooks.

People’s frustration is that it could do radically more that way would really enhance functionality and utility for a lot of people, without hurting its distraction free nature, but they refuse to do so. The thing doesn’t even support comic book archives, and the new one has a great color screen!

Re: ReMarkable Paper Pro

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Post by paulcole »

joshjob42 wrote: post #519
paulcole wrote: post #507

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Remarkable “community” is full of people like this — especially on Reddit. 99% of the time they have some comically unique workflow that Remarkable “needs” to support or they want to read ebooks on the thing and have it be better than a Kindle (which they also hate) or something else that if they did any research before buying would have (hopefully) dissuaded them.

An eink device not being great at reading books is silly. These devices are especially compelling for academics, but Remarkable has no links to reference managers like Zotero. It also is radically dependent on your computer or phone for getting material on/off, when an integration with Readwise for instance would fit naturally into people’s flow and not require cluttering up the filesysten with temporary material lik…

> An eink device not being great at reading books is silly.

No it isn’t.

Remarkable is primarily marketed as a replacement for a paper notebook.

If that’s not far and away your #1 use case you’re going to be disappointed in it.

> The thing doesn’t even support comic book archives

And my bicycle doesn’t ride well on ice. I don’t blame the bike.

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