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Did we lose our way in making efficient software?

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Re: Did we lose our way in making efficient software?

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mardifoufs wrote: post #510
guappa wrote: post #508

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You remind me when microsoft was claiming that bash was hard and as example did some crazy obfuscated bash scripts, rather than just doing them the sane way. If you're doing a GUI, you have no reason to be doing canvas manually.

What? Even with QT you often have to use a painter and draw what you want more or less. You also need a canvas to display anything that is visualisation related. In any case it doesn't matter, as I said, scrolling is just as easy on the web as it is on QT. my point was more general, if you want to do anything custom it's easier to do in JS than with QT. Even using the multiple tools QT offers to customize the view (t…

You're just showing me you've never dune as much as an hello world using QT. Which is completely fine, but don't paint yourself as knowing what you're talking about.

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Post by worthless-trash »

mike_hearn wrote: post #416
worthless-trash wrote: post #333

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> They keep copies of every program running on a Mac, so they can do clustering > analysis server side. Are you sure about this ? I did not give apple permission to keep a copy of my software that I am writing.

Yes you did, if you have notarized your app: https://developer.apple.com/support/terms/apple-developer-pr... Section 5.3: "By uploading Your Application to Apple for this digital notary service, You agree that Apple may perform such security checks on Your Application for purposes of detecting malware or other harmful or suspicious code or components, and You agree that Apple may retain and use Your Application for s…

I did not notarize my app. So it doesn't have a copy of my program, which I believe is a subset of every.

Re: Did we lose our way in making efficient software?

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Post by lr4444lr »

darylteo wrote: post #355
lr4444lr wrote: post #8

I think about this a lot, and the conclusion I've come to is that the market (simply meaning the popularity) rewards features and intuitive UI above everything else. I think we've been on this trajectory for some time: getting users with less and less actual computer literacy to do more and more with computers.

The market rewards VALUE. The rest are simply modifiers on that value. More intuitive UI allows users to gain value more efficiently. Performance allows users to gain value more efficiency. Efficiency is important, but Value more so.

Of course, that goes without saying. What I'm adding is the increasingly more computer illiterate expectations of the end consumer deriving the value, and the increasing functional demands he expects at his level of ability to understand the internals.

Re: Did we lose our way in making efficient software?

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Post by mardifoufs »

guappa wrote: post #511
mardifoufs wrote: post #510

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What? Even with QT you often have to use a painter and draw what you want more or less. You also need a canvas to display anything that is visualisation related. In any case it doesn't matter, as I said, scrolling is just as easy on the web as it is on QT. my point was more general, if you want to do anything custom it's easier to do in JS than with QT. Even using the multiple tools QT offers to customize the view (t…

You're just showing me you've never dune as much as an hello world using QT. Which is completely fine, but don't paint yourself as knowing what you're talking about.

That isn't true. Are you really saying that qt is easier to customize than a plain JS/HTML UI? Seriously?
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