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YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by j5155 »

pctf wrote: post #486
gretch wrote: post #481

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Example: a video shows a group of police beating up a man for a minor crime (say littering). The video is signed by Michael Smith (the random passerby who filmed it on his phone). The video is published to Instagram and shared widely. How do you expect people to take the authenticity of this video?

The signing happens using hardware inside the phone or camera. It implies that it came from a real device and thus was not AI created or modified. Check out https://c2pa.org/specifications/specifications/1.4/attestati... for more details

And what happens when people just film an AI video playing on a screen with this phone or camera?

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by barfbagginus »

dev1ycan wrote: post #488
barfbagginus wrote: post #322

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Don't worry Google has become incompetent - it is in the "Fading AOL" portion of its life cycle. Do you remember how incontinent AOL became in the final minutes before it became completely irrelevant? Sure it's taking longer with Google. But it's not a process that they can reverse. That means the system will be really really awful. So challengers can arise - maybe a challenger that YOU build, and open source!

Eh, I think their control of Google, Youtube and Android is enough to keep them afloat while being as you said, incompetent.

Duck duck go is now more effective than Google, and I've been using it instead of Google for 5 years. Now I mainly ask GPT4 questions, and eliminate the need for search altogether in most cases. I run ad blockers on YouTube. And they're not getting cash from me via Android.

You may be right that they can survive more readily than AOL did.. but I certainly won't help them with anything more than a kick in the pants! ;)

Re: YouTube now requires to label their realistic-looking videos made using AI

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Post by barfbagginus »

surajrmal wrote: post #349
barfbagginus wrote: post #322

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Don't worry Google has become incompetent - it is in the "Fading AOL" portion of its life cycle. Do you remember how incontinent AOL became in the final minutes before it became completely irrelevant? Sure it's taking longer with Google. But it's not a process that they can reverse. That means the system will be really really awful. So challengers can arise - maybe a challenger that YOU build, and open source!

I think you're living in a bubble if you believe that.

1. Google lost the battle for LLMs, and cannot win that battle without putting a nail in the coffin of its own search monetization strategy

2. Google search is now no better than DDG, which it also cannot recover from without putting a nail in the coffin of its own search monetization strategy

If you want a randomly accuse me of living in a bubble that's fine. It won't bother me one bit. Me living in a bubble doesn't change the fact that Google is backed into a corner when it comes to search quality and competing with LLMs.

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

parthianshotgun wrote: post #507
shafyy wrote: post #407

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> I am really super surprised that basic survival needs are NOT on the table when we are all arguing about religion, abortion, guns, etc. Like really? Most people in the world struggle to feed themselves and their families. This is the basic survival need. Do you think they fucking care what happens to humantiy in 100k years? Stop drinking that transhumanism kool-aid, give your windows a good cleaning and look at wha…

The transhumanist/effective altruism types really do a great service in making me chuckle. I wonder where that attitude comes from, lack of community?

Narcissism

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Post by BehindBlueEyes »

hobo_in_library wrote: post #490
HlessClaudesman wrote: post #414

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Porn classification / regulation boils down to: "I'll know it when I see it." Implying the existence of some hyper vigilant seer who can heroically determine what we should keep behind the video storre curtain of dencey, as if no grey areas exist. This also has the problem of requiring actual unbiased humans to view and accurately assess everything, which of course does not scale. Perhaps AI classification is the mir…

> We could conceivably use good AI to spot the bad AI I suspect this is Google's actual goal with the tagging system. It's not so much about helping users, rather it's a way to collect labeled data which they can later use to train their own "AI detection" algorithms

I can see a new type of capchas on the horizon: human verification! select all videos that were made by ai.

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

exodust wrote: post #498
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #391

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> The more interesting and troubling point is your use of "synthetic you" to make the real you sound better! Why?

Did you replace the real you with "AI you" to ask me "why"? I presume you wouldn't do that? How about replacing your own voice on a video that you make, allowing your viewers to believe it's your natural voice? Are you comfortable with that deception? Everyone has evolving opinions about this subject. For me, I don't want to converse with stand-in replacements for living people.

How’s that different from photoshopping images?

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Post by sumedh »

Devasta wrote: post #432
sumedh wrote: post #423

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> If it wasn't worth your time creating it Once something like Sora is available to the public, its going to be game over. A new bunch of creators will use it to "create" videos and I am sure you will change your mind then.

"Game over". Typical, people who don't want their feeds filled with AI generated pigswill are to be defeated, not persuaded.

You can keep fighting all you want but in the end you will lose.
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