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Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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The polite thing to do if you have a feature you think would make a FOSS project better is to submit a feature request first. If the maintainers decide they won’t support your feature quickly enough or at all, then fork it. GP did the right thing here

You think it would be a big fork you?

Forking is not the issue, it’s maintaining the fork after that’s the burden.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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I’m really picky about my tools in general and latency in particular, and I give Zed a spin from time to time, it’s sweet. Clean, minimal design aesthetic, tree-sitter, tight code, it’s a nice bit of work and I dig it a lot. But emacs 29 with the right flags and a tuned GC (no one does this! it’s got a heap-size from the 80s!) is just as snappy and has more amazing packages than VSCode. There’s a market for people wh…

Emacs still blocks input on simple things like package updates though.

Elpaca [1] does not do this. I use it and it works a treat.

1: https://github.com/progfolio/elpaca

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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I looked into that on GitHub earlier because I was curious about exactly this, and yes it looks like they did roll their own.

Could you link where you found it? I'm curious what kind they made.

I think it's most of the "buffer" stuff here[0].

[0] https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/2924/files#diff-e...

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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Are you sure that’s vim rather than Melvin. Never had any issues with anything breaking on an upgrade using vim.

Not sure what Melvin is. I've always had issues, specifically when I have lots of packages, such as when installing stuff through lazy.vim.

Updating vim packages can be a nightmare if you don't vet your plugins and generally install stuff "just in case I want to try it out later". If you aren't using a plugin with any regularity, delete it.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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This is an impressive piece of engineering, but I already have a collaborative code editor. It's called vim+tmux, and I can use it over hardware going all the way back to the 80s. The older I get, the more I feel that if I can't use it over a VT220, I don't want it.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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AI helpers, Chats and Calls??? Microsoft log-in, Commercial plans, Telemetry? Seems like an overload of everything for an editor - more distractions not a new way to code. Def sticking with good old nvim for some longer time, no better editing experience engineered yet

yeah i noticed that too, whats so hard to just get a simple editor that gets the job done without so much wasted energy and code.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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What about Windows?

I think that is on the roadmap too, but possibly further down.

You know Windows is the most common development platform? If it were me I'd prioritize it

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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As a senior engineer, it really helps when helping junior engineers. When I'm on a call and we're sharing screens it gets really annoying having to tell them "no, go up. Go up, all the way up, the button at the top. THE TOP"

This. The worst thing is that I get mad at them for not doing what I want them to, faster, when the tooling and my crooked explanations are at fault, not them. Not that I mention that out loud, but sometimes I feel ashamed for those feelings. Having real time collaboration that works so seamlessly as Zed apparently does would really get me to consider switching IDEs!

I feel no shame for getting mad at my coworkers

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

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“Please don’t do it like a 4x4 truck, do it proper, like a bicycle” — there is some overlap between those things, but for people who are actually making full use of the former, the latter is not a useful suggestion

The former is bad design, it has no gradual fallback and works in a terrifying way. It pulls binaries from MS servers and runs a headless vscode instance on the remote machine. You are dead in the water if you target a machine/architecture it doesnt support. You want to target FreeBSD? Linux on POWER or RISC-V? An old (ARMV6-TDMI) Raspberry Pi? Sorry, no remote work for you. They are not an apple and pears comparison…

I'd very much prefer something that works seamlessly in 95% of the use cases and makes me do some work or look for an alternative for the remaining 5%, than something that makes me do work in 100% of the cases.

Re: Zed, a collaborative code editor, is now open source

#520
Was confused until I realised I'd confused Zed, with Xi[1] which is also rust based, and which incidentally has a frontend called "Xim"..

Also there's a wiki-editor (like Tomboy[2]) called "Zim"[3].

[1] https://github.com/xi-editor/xi-editor [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_(software) [*3] https://zim-wiki.org/

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