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Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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I'm ok with hybrid work schedule now that my company make th mandate. But, I think we are really dumb for scheduling meetings in the early hours while others commuting to work. Plus, once in the office everyone finds a corner and dial into zoom. Isn't that dumb you think?

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I think it was obvious what they meant given context.

I don't think it is that obvious. HN is a global platform after all.

It stands to reason that someone who has travelled to over 60 countries would have the ability to understand what someone is trying to say without being this needlessly pedantic.

Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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The fundamental issue I see in this debate is a lack of sensibility and nuance in human nature. The whole matter is debated (understandably in a way) on big numbers and averages. I could write a long post but I'll cut it short to this paragraph stating that humans differ. For some commuting is stressful, the offices are noisy and full of distractions and those individuals may thrive in a remote setup. There's people…

I would add one major change that the work from home experiment has achieved - its made the opportunity cost of the work commute clear. This is a time cost paid for by the worker. As you stated, this is variable. If you have a short commute, or you like it, or you get some exercise - office is great. If you hate your commute, if its 3 hours in pollution and traffic - not so much. Earlier the position was that WFH was…

Not only the commute, but also lunch breaks. In US and Canada, lunch breaks are short, but back in Brazil I had a 1:30h lunch break, and then at another job, 1:12. But I'm at the office, can't go to bed, I'm at the company's computer so can't do anything I want, also it's in the office, so if watching some TV show or anime that has more graphic content, that might also be a no.

So basically, waste of time.

Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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Most employees can screw around websurfing or shopping just as well at work as at home. They mostly do it because they are bored. Give them interesting, meaningful work and they will be productive.

Isn't that why people are paid to work? Because it isn't interesting or meaningful?

I enjoy software development. I would develop with or without a paycheck. The pay is a bid to make me give a shit about what my employer wants me to develop, a bid they need to keep higher than every other person who has money but no ability to make the things they want.

Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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Building a startup is full of uninteresting work. Same for games and any other field. Everything has its boring parts. (Especially building startups. What a slog that is. The fun part is building the product, and that’s a fraction of what you have to do.)

There's one infinitesimal wake period during the age of the universe, and this sounds like making excuses to not do the thing you want to do. Rip off the band aid and feel some pain.

Already done it. I’m speaking from experience, not fear.

Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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The commercial real estate market is a lot bigger than $5B.

But FAANG doesn’t care about the commercial real estate market, so why would they make any decisions based on it?

FAANG as an amorphous blob of business doesn't care about commercial real estate. The very real people that make decisions at and for FAANG absolutely have concerns and interests outside of FAANG'S stock price in the decisions they make.

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I wouldn’t call it nothing either. I’d call it “actually getting a decent amount of exercise,” something many struggle with.

That sounds like a self-discipline problem.

And the walk to work is a self-discipline solution!

Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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I agree in general except on this > workload splitting where syncing isn't very important I'm not convinced that remote means syncing is harder. There is a case to be made that: it's easier because it compels teams to have a structure for syncing, and structured syncing may be more efficient than ad hoc. Put another way, you potentially lose the crutch and end up stronger as a result. This isn't a whimsical theory ei…

It doesn't make syncing harder. I've worked for high-performing global teams for DECADES, so this debate is amusing to me. It shows me which companies absolutely cannot scale past a certain point, and which perpetuate terrible communication and management practices papered over with in person smokescreens. Work requires effective communication. Global teams place a premium on that and nurture it if they're successful…

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Re: Remote work doesn't seem to affect productivity, Fed study finds

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I do not think that it is valid to compare a developing country that can't provide even proper sanitation to US. We can compare US to Japan, to Europe, perhaps to some parts of China but certainly not to India - it would be too much apples to cucumbers comparison.

I agree. Then let's say "developed world". Saying US is a global outlier is silly when much of the globe is underdeveloped.

Perhaps, but we can say that there are certain reasons why the public transportation can be not very good in the developing world.

Imagine that we but every country and their development index and their public transportation development index on a XY graph? Would US still stand out?

Let's assume that it does. Then we can say that US is a global outlier.

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You negotiate compensation before accepting the job and generally have the option to move. If anything it’s people failing to consider commute times when looking for work that’s the issue not company’s requirements. Going they will pay me 10k more per year but I’ll spend X more hours a week commuting is effectively being paid to commute.

Hence calling them suckers. Doing the commute is fine, but not taking it into account is potentially seeking yourself short(even if you end up feeling forced to take an offer you feel doesn't take it into account - at least then you're aware).

Who are these people who are competent enough to hold an engineering position but do so without taking the facts of a commute into account?
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