Introducing Google Drive... yes, really • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by richardlblair » Thu, Apr 26, 2012, 1:17 AM UTC

mangodrunk wrote: post #505

richardlblair wrote: post #452

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And Dropbox doesn't use/steal your data. So really that is an argument for Dropbox by it self. It also kinda of nulls "* 2-factor authentication!" because what is authentication if your data isn't safe? +1 Dropbox

Are you forgetting or not aware of security issues with Dropbox where a bug made passwords optional for four hours[1], some people claiming that it's not secure by design [2], and mislead customers about security policies [3]. I don't know how relevant these issues are today, but you're claims make it seem like that have a perfect record. [1] http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/20/dropbox-security-bug-made-p... [2] http://…

Hey mangodrunk. Thanks for taking the time to put together citations. I was aware of the first item on your list and I was impressed with how Dropbox handled the situation. Everyone have bugs, but it's how you deal with these things that speak volumes to me.

I haven't heard of the other 2 things on your list, but I'll take the time to read them thoroughly. Thanks for bringing them to my attention. Obviosuly privacy is something important to me, so knowing all the facts is important.

That being said, when it comes to TOS, Dropbox is far more attractive.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by jonknee » Thu, Apr 26, 2012, 3:39 AM UTC

robomartin wrote: post #493

jonknee wrote: post #475

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Why not have a Google account for work and one for personal use? Either way, getting locked out of Drive is pretty silly--like Dropbox you always have backups synced on your machines.

I think there's evidence of Goggle detecting multiple accounts and suspending all of them when an algo triggers on one of the accounts. I can't vouch for this but I remember reading posts about such things maybe a year ago. It's not necessarily about loosing data or loosing GDrive alone. There are many scenarios one could think of. Firstly, if your account gets locked out you loose ALL Google services. If you've been…

Google encourages people to have multiple accounts in some cases (they even tried their best to force it when converting products over to Google Apps), I think you only get in trouble if you are banned and then try to use another account for the same activity.

I'd create a Google Apps for business account and use that for all business stuff (AdSense/AdWords/Analytics). They won't disable that and you get phone support.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by niels_olson » Thu, Apr 26, 2012, 4:27 AM UTC

amirmc wrote: post #140

magicalist wrote: post #105

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Well it's a good thing a major point of the product is the local copy :)

Yes, but that's not really what concerns me. It's that my workflow runs through those services. To clarify, email (basically your identity online), calendars, device syncing, now file-sharing can be run through Google (and I'm sure a whole lot of other things too). If these were to disappear* I'd basically be left with a nice shiny box, where I could 'work' but in a much more limited way. It would feel like being on…

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Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by rayhano » Thu, Apr 26, 2012, 12:44 PM UTC

replax wrote: post #413

rayhano wrote: post #185

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BUT will the experience be seamless and actually replicate a proper file system, OR the current experience of having files on the web (Box, DropBox, SkyDrive) and not being able to attach/read/edit files. Currently you need native integration with these online services in iOS. When will they actually be web based file systems, universally accessible via API?

I am sorry, but skydrive has basically ms office build in. you can easily create/edit files. although it is obviously not the complete office suite, it is definitely very decent.

Sure, and I love that SkyDrive is built into office... but accessing those files on the go, or with any other programme is a nightmare. What do I do with my other files? Spread them across different services?

IF Office comes to iOS, THAT will be a game-changer. And I don't mean the lame Windows Phone 7 implementation. I would EVEN be happy with Office from Windows 3.1!

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by lobster_johnson » Thu, Apr 26, 2012, 1:43 PM UTC

sirclueless wrote: post #507

lobster_johnson wrote: post #499

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I see. But does that qualify as a two-factor auth? You need two independent "factors" for that, and while OAuth uses tokens internally, all it does is ensure a secure transport between Google's servers and the app that requests authorization. It doesn't actually obtain two different things from the user.

No, that's not exactly what he means. The "token" isn't the OAuth native token, it's a 6-digit code that is based on the current time and a device secret embedded in the app on your phone.

Oh, I see, it's actually an app you install on your phone.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by andrewljohnson » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 2:23 AM UTC

Drbble wrote: post #496

andrewljohnson wrote: post #92

The pricing of this service is an eye-popper. I've avoided cloud backups for years because of Dropbox-like prices. At $256/TB/year, I can back up all my stuff, and never think twice. Game changed!

The price tripled since you last checked.

So it did, make much more sense now :)

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by checkers » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 2:45 AM UTC

andrewljohnson wrote: post #516

Drbble wrote: post #496

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The price tripled since you last checked.

So it did, make much more sense now :)

It would make more sense if you visit this link. http://techiest.blogspot.com/. All about technology baby!

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by iso8859-1 » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 10:54 PM UTC

mmastrac wrote: post #348

pg wrote: post #34

Anyone know if this is the original Google Drive they wrote all those years ago and never launched, or a new thing they reused the name for?

This is a brand-new implementation. The old version was built on MacFuse. This one is a Python+wx.

wxwidgets? Dropbox is Python too.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by iso8859-1 » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 11:02 PM UTC

munchor wrote: post #319

antihero wrote: post #168

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Don't they use Linux a lot internally, too? It's really awful that companies such as Box, Google etc are not supporting the Linux desktop, especially seeing as desktop linux is actually a really attractive option right now - better memory management than OSX and installable on pretty much any device, and Windows is pretty much a joke for non-.NET development or unless you game. Fuck, their Android platform is based o…

I completely agree, huge company, huge resources, lotsa money. With all that, making a Linux client would be super easy, any highschool kid can go ahead and just build it, but with their resources, they can make a just-as-good Linux client very easily. Damn, this pisses me off, seems like a great product I just can't use. Ubuntu One and Dropbox seem like the best alternatives now. Also, Google Earth on Linux is indee…

Google Earth on Linux is not Wine, Picasa is. And it works great.

Re: Introducing Google Drive... yes, really

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Post by iso8859-1 » Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 11:06 PM UTC

Drbble wrote: post #494

VMG wrote: post #197

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Also add the linux version of Google Earth - it's a joke

Google Earth has always been a farm for practicing features in preparation for a move into Maps. Earth was never a respected product.

Earth has many features that Maps don't. When is the time you tried Earth? Viewing old imagery, the flightsim, more layers, it even has street view integration now.