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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

The Cybertruck is actually rather low for a truck. The edge of the hood would hit a typical person in the gut, not the neck or face as with many other trucks (especially lifted trucks). https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/model-s-v...

Looking at the picture of the CT in your link, unless you're Andre the Giant reincarnated, that thing will hit you smack in the face.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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I would be interested to learn how this works in practice. In many companies separate divisions barely collaborate or take learnings from each other. 2 separate companies sharing learnings is unique.

Separate divisions barely collaborating is not the case at Tesla either (or SpaceX). One of their mantras is "everybody is a chief engineer." They're all supposed to know enough about everything so they don't design parts that make trouble for other parts of the car, or for manufacturing. It's the reason they moved the new production line for the next-gen vehicle to Austin, so the engineers would be there for it. I d…

I'm sure that the lower regulatory environment in Texas was much more of a factor. Musk has complained for a long time about California's regulations.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

People bring this up a lot on Hacker News, but AEB (Automated Emergency Braking) is essentially standard at this point [0] on new vehicles (technically NHTSA just makes recommendations on this right now, but as a practical matter OEM's comply because someday soon it'll be mandatory without an explicit waiver). Between the forward-facing camera (usually running some version of Mobileye EyeQ) and forward-facing radar,…

Or, you know, you could do both.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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1kg of petrol/gasoline is ~48MJ. 1kg of Lithim-ion battery is ~0.25MJ/kg. Gasoline is ~192X energy dense compared to Lithium-ion batteries. Li-on is the most popular battery due to its cost and weight. In terms of weight: Tesla model Y = ~4,500 lbs. F-150 lightning = ~6,500 lbs. Rivian R1T = ~7,000 lbs. Hummer EV = ~9,000 lbs. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cybertruck = ~5,400 lbs A human roughly weighs 160lbs (~72kg). Buying electric tr…

Weight of Cybertruck per the very page associated with this post: 6,843 lbs — but your point still stands.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Placed an order on announce day. My main reason was the 500 mile range (for the tri-motor variant). As much as I'd like to buy the thing, if the range offered doesn't meet or exceed the promised value, I'll cancel my order and get my $100 back. If it does meet spec, I've got a check ready.

Looks like you are cancelling...

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Wow that's crazy!

Yeah, the formula for road damage is a very fast growing function ((vehicle weight^4)/number of axles)

Just tax them by the same formula and watch cars getting smaller and smaller. And getting more axles I suppose.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Who is the ideal customer for this thing? Construction worker? Off roader? Camper? Home improvement person?

Suburban married couples with two children who have a powerboat, bumper-pull camper, and/or like outdoor recreation.

That is, mostly the same people who already buy four-door pickups with 5.5 foot beds.

It could also be good for around-town trades, especially if they tow light trailers -- like landscape crews.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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> Tesla's Model Y has been recognized as one of the safest cars of 2023 by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), receiving the agency's Top Safety Pick+ rating for the third year. https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1224/tesla-model-y-receive... > Teslas on non-highways with Full Self Driving (FSD) engaged had just 0.31 accidents per million miles representing an 80% reduction in accidents compared with th…

Oh great, the Tesla Safety report [1]. Can you let me know where in that “exhaustive” report I can find the number of accidents or miles driven used in that calculation? You know, the numerator and denominator? You know, the sort of hard-hitting data reporting expected out of a elementary school science fair project? Almost like they hide that information like how they demand NHTSA redact all pertinent information fr…

Well I'm not going to dig into all that data to see if it verifies your claims, so I guess I'll leave it there.

But the first link I posted came from the insurance industry, not from Tesla.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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But I'm aggregate that gets lost in the noise due to the relative volumes. Small 2 cycle engines like mopeds are the biggest contributor. Then small cars, these luxury cars are a small percent of global emissions. Also, those people don't have to drive big luxury cars, they can buy these smaller cars.

There's room in the market for both of these types of vehicles. Asking people who typically buy big luxury cars to 'just buy a smaller car' would be nice in theory, but isn't going to happen in practice. There are many reasons, valid or potentially invalid, to own a larger car or a truck, and often you're not going to change people's minds on that.

I agree. I'm saying that the folks buying the former should not be doing so under the pretense that it's better for the environment, or society.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

#520
Pet theory: Musk's justly hated destruction of Twitter,

and accelerating descent into open literal racism and antisemitism,

are both meant to distract from the stupidity and imminent utter failure of the abomination that is the Cybertruck.

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