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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Ilya signed it??? He's on the board... This whole thing is such an implosion of ambition.

he even posted a apology: https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20 what the actual fuck =O

You come at the king, you best not miss. If you do, make sure to apologize on Twitter while you can.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done. Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him bac…

I don't think Microsoft is a loser and likely neither is Altman. I view this a final (and perhaps disparate) attempt from a sidelined chief scientist, Ilya, to prevent Microsoft from taking over the most prominent AI. The disagreement is whether OpenAI should belong to Microsoft or "humanity". I imagine this has been building up over months and as it often is, researchers and developers are often overlooked in strategic decisions leaving them with little choice but to escalate dramatically. Selling OpenAI to Microsoft and over-commercialising was against the statues.

In this case recognizing the need for a new board, that adheres to the founding principles, makes sense.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Somehow reminds me of Nokia... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7645482 frik on April 25, 2014: > The Nokia fate will be remembered as hostile takeover. Everything worked out in the favor of Microsoft in the end. Though Windows Phone/Tablet have low market share, a lot lower than expected. > * Stephen Elop the former Microsoft employee (head of the Business Division) and later Nokia CEO with his infamous "Burning…

In many ways the analysis by Elop was right, Nokia was in trouble. However his solution wasn't the right one, and Nokia paid for it.

Seeing that a company is in trouble is not really the highest bar for a CEO candidate...

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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If they join Sam Altman and Greg Brockman at Microsoft they will not need to start from scratch because Microsoft has full rights [1] to ChatGPT IP. They can just fork ChatGPT. Also keep in mind that Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits. So this could end up being the cheapest acquisition for Microsoft: They get a $90 Billion company for peanuts. [1]…

> Microsoft hasn't actually given OpenAI $13 Billion because much of that is in the form of Azure credits To be clear, these don't go away. They remain an asset of OpenAI's, and could help them continue their research for a few years.

# sudo renice +19 openai_process

There's your "credit".

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

Absolutely agreed This is the point where I've realized I just have to wait until history is written, rather than trying to follow this in real time. The situation is too convoluted, and too many people are playing the media to try to advance their version of the narrative. When there is enough distance from the situation for a proper historical retrospective to be written, I look forward to getting a better view of…

And for so-called tech influencers to rapidly blanket the field of discourse with their theories so they can say their theory was right later on, or making “emergency podcasts/blog posts/etc.” to get more attention and followers. It’s so exhausting.
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