OpenAI board in discussions with Sam Altman to return as CEO

Post by magicalhippo » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 1:06 AM UTC

crop_rotation wrote: post #60

The board seems truly incompetent here and looking at the member list it doesn't seem very surprising. A competent board should have asked for legal and professional advice before taking a drastic step like this. Instead the board thought it was a boxing match and tried to deliver a knockout punch before the market closes with blunt language. This might be the most incompetent board for an organisation of this size.

Post by renewiltord » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 1:07 AM UTC

jojosbuddy wrote: post #41

Handy-Man wrote: post #7

Satya be like, fine, it’s time for adults to take over.

Yeah, though he may have went, "I did nothing here, and my stock price went down 2% in ONE hour from it."

Post by jaybrendansmith » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 1:09 AM UTC

tbrownaw wrote: post #400

skygazer wrote: post #26

Man, the board already looked reckless and incompetent, but this solidifies the appearance. You can do crazy ill-advised things, but if you unwaveringly commit, we’ll always wonder if you’re secretly a genius. But when you immediately backtrack, we’ll know you were a fool all along.

Option A: try to look good by hiding that you know you messed up Option B: try to fix mistakes as quickly as possible . This is that thing that somehow got the label "psychological safety" attached to it. Hiding mistakes is bad because it means they don't get fixed (and so systems that (do or appear to) set personal interest in favor of hiding mistakes are also bad).

Post by Satam » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 1:10 AM UTC

random_cynic wrote: post #496

Satam wrote: post #438

It now seems to me that it was inevitable that something like GPT would take off - but it didn't necessarily have to come from OpenAI. Someone else would have filled their place. The collective ML knowledge and research were rapidly evolving, computing was getting faster and cheaper. The pressure was building and at some point, something somewhere had to pop off. They were a great but not a singular team. And it look…

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Post by fisf » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 1:10 AM UTC

015a wrote: post #409

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any talented engineer or scientist who actually wants to ship product AND make money would head over to Sam’s startup. Any investor who cares about making money would fund Sam’s startup as well. The way the board pulled this off really gave them no good outcome. They stand to lose talent AND investors AND customers. Half the people I know who use GPT in their work are wondering if it will be even worth paying for if…

And any talented engineer or scientist who actually wants to build safe AGI in an organization that isn't obsessed with boring B2B SaaS would align with Ilya. See, there are two sides to this? Sam isn't a god, despite what the media makes him out to be; none of them are.