I got a new M2 Pro 16" just a few weeks ago. I was pissed when I discovered that a new M3 Pro was coming out. Reading all the comments here, I feel a bit better.
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#512Just wait for M3 Ultra which in past generations is literally just 2 Maxs. Imagine 256 of GB unified RAM (oh and I guess the 32-core CPU and 80-core GPU, though those aren't as impressive). Really would love to know how much that is going to cost
The ultras don't make a lot of sense for most professionals when, at that price point a threadripper and a 4090 would still eat it for lunch.
While that may be true, it's not really an apples to apple comparison.
The m2 Mac Studio right now at $2400 for the 64gb model is cheaper than most anything new if you want 64gb unified pool of gpu memory other than the $2000 Nvidia 64gb Jetson AGX Orin which is much slower.
A threadripper based system is physically freaking large, and loud, and incredibly vram constrained. It of course is going to absolutely destroy the Mac Studio in most situations because it's better than the Mac Studio in most metrics, but honestly I'm very excited by the prospect of future Macs with gobs of memory, although I'm concerned at how Apple isn't generationally improving memory bandwidth.
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#513It’s kind of strange their benchmark for “Machine Learning Programmers” is “Simulation of Dynamical Systems in MATLAB.” Seems like they could have capitalized better by using a generative ai inference benchmark.
Maybe they know M3 is not up for that kind of task.
Possibly this, but also consider Apple is playing major catch up with generative AI. I could see avoiding mention just to keep it a bit further from the mind of reviewers.
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> Any reason for not upgrading? Why is this sort of question always framed as if people have to provide a justification for not buying a new model, as if spending money on the new shiny without any reason is normal or desirable? We live in a day and age where hardware bought a decade ago still packs enough punch to run most of today's software without any hiccup. Why would anyone waste their cash to replace something…
It is an honest question. For some background in my thinking, it is because today's announcement really focused on Intel users. My semi-educated guess is that Apple did a whole bunch of user studies and realized there are a lot of people out there, like the OP, who haven't upgraded yet, hence the focus. As a result, I'm genuinely curious why this person hasn't upgraded. And for my own personal experience, the upgrade…
> better ergonomics
The newer 16 inch MacBook Pros are half a pound heavier than the Intel one.
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#515"Graphics-intensive games like Myst have incredibly realistic lighting, shadows, and reflections, thanks to the next-generation GPU of M3"
This is the funniest thing I have ever seen in an Apple press release. Myst came out in 1993, and the "graphics-intensive" version of Myst that they are demonstrating is clearly realMyst which came out in February 2014, just a few months shy of a decade ago.
Meanwhile, my wife is happily playing Baldur's Gate 3 on her M1 Mac. Could they really not get the sign-off from any other studio but Cyan on this? No shade against Myst, it is one of the best games ever produced, but this is not how you do a graphics demo...
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EDIT: Just now learning that there is yet another Myst remake from 2021 made in Unreal. It turns out I have played this version, but I did it on a Meta Quest 2, so I thought I was just playing a VR port of realMyst because it looked equally bad.
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#516> Graphics-intensive games like Myst have incredibly realistic lighting, shadows, and reflections, thanks to the next-generation GPU of M3. I thought this was funny considering the original Myst can run on a modern toaster. I'm guessing they're referring to a new Myst re-release?
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#517I got a new M2 Pro 16" just a few weeks ago. I was pissed when I discovered that a new M3 Pro was coming out. Reading all the comments here, I feel a bit better.
You missed out on black though.
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#518> Graphics-intensive games like Myst have incredibly realistic lighting, shadows, and reflections, thanks to the next-generation GPU of M3. I thought this was funny considering the original Myst can run on a modern toaster. I'm guessing they're referring to a new Myst re-release?
Yeah, it's pretty pathetic they keep bringing up Myst. I definitely highlighted it as a laughing point when summarizing it to others.
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Looks like the latest MBA is only 0.1 lbs less than the equivalent MBP at 3.4 lbs. Feels like they used to be lighter.
They also used to feel a lot thinner, with the taper at the front edge. I don't like my M2 MacBook Air nearly as much as the M1, in terms of the physical feel and dimensions.
I had four or five gens of MBA over the years and generally agree. The new form factor is just not the same. It is much more like a how I'd envision design on some modern "Macbook" proper.
But the Air brand has been so successful, I think they just called it that knowing it would help move units.
That said, I use MBA M2 for my main machine and its so powerful and has such a fantastic battery life it is still the best Mac I've had since 2015 MBA.
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I really, really wish they would fix this silly display scan-out limitation. I gave them a (frustrating) pass on the M1 given it was the first evolution from iPhone/iPad where it wouldn't have mattered. But seems silly to have made it all the way to the M3. Wanting to dock onto two displays even at the low end doesn't seem like such a niche use-case. I'm sure there is some kind of technical explanation but both Intel…
The technical explanation is that on the base M1/M2 SoC there is one Thunderbolt bus that supports 2 display outputs. On the MacBook Air one output is connected to the internal display leaving one output for an external display. (The Mac Mini that uses the same SoC is limited to 2 external displays for the same reason) To support more displays they would have to add support for a second Thunderbolt bus to the base So…
Right, but why can't you disable the internal display to run 2 external displays? That wouldn't be an unreasonble compromise but seems not possible.