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Re: The Cloud Computer

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That website is interesting. Maybe it's a Firefox bug, but when I load the page with NoScript on, the text is very weird, like this: > TODay WE aRE aNNOUNCING tHe It's actually much weirder than that, as some of the capitals in my quote are actually big lowercase letters, not capitals (i.e. the opposite of smallcaps).

I saw the same thing and wondered why nobody in the comments mentioned how painful this site was to read. Copy/paste the text and suddenly it's all back to normal. Saved the page to disk and loaded the local copy in the browser - also perfectly normal. Very strange. Maybe something to do with their CSS?

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Except if everyone gets paid the same, you're not being rewarded for the value you provide. I don't think salary should be tied to location, but it should be tied to experience, ability, and effort.

> I don't think salary should be tied to location, but it should be tied to experience, ability, and effort. That's the labor theory of value (see: Smith, Marx), which in theory sounds meritocratic but it can't really be measured or assessed. In reality compensation either becomes a function of power, social currency and negotiation skills, which is the general norm in professions, or you have an institutionalized, p…

That is not the labor theory of value. The whole point of LTV, at least in Marxian economics, is that workers can't be payed according to their socially necessary labor, because a surplus labor is extracted.

Besides, LTV as a theory is meant to be a description of the world as Smith, Marx, etc. see it, not a prescription for how things should be done.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Most people who can do this (aren't as entrenched in AWS) end up moving to a cheap VPS provider so that they don't end up having to pay for all the internetworking, facilities, throw redundancy out the window, and then still have to pay the IT burden to heavy-lift all their workloads to this whole new "Oxide" system.

> end up moving to a cheap VPS provider Like which?

Hetzner, Linode, Rackspace, take your pick.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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This is actually a pretty big deal. They sell servers, but as a finished product. Not as a cobbled together mess of third party stuff where the vendor keeps shrugging if there is an integration problem. They integrated it. It comes with all the features they expect you to want if you wanted to build your own cloud. Also, they wrote the software. And it's all open source. So no "sorry but the third party vendor droppe…

While working in telecom data centers circa 2016 I've seen many single rack computers from Dell, IBM, HP, Huawei... Not sure that's a new ideia, ex. the open source bits.

I think Dell, IBM & HP all went through a "blade" era where they built cableless systems that plugged into a backplane.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Thank you for the response. The problem you described has been solved by the large vendors with Hyper-converged offerings for many years so it sounds like Oxide might be a bit late to the party. I do understand well the rational of running your own servers vs hyperscalers, as well as the repatriation trend but I see Oxide at best as a niche player.

> The problem you described has been solved by the large vendors with Hyper-converged offerings for many years All Oxide has to do to win that market is ship software and firmware that doesn't suck, because there are incumbents but the incumbents are clearly incapable of doing so.

The bar really is sooooo low

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Damn that's insane. As someone from Europe these salaries are just extreme. If ya'll are looking for a remote security engineer from Europe hit me up. :) For those numbers I'll walk the servers into the customers myself.

That's probably [EDIT: decidedly] on the low side for the bay area for rock star devs, and Oxide has lots of rock star devs. I haven't looked but I assume they pay bonuses, probably differential bonuses.

Like Steve, I also took a pay cut (from around 400-600k a year TC at a FAANG) to work at Oxide. I'm very passionate about what we do and was attracted to the values-oriented culture.

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Exactly, man! That's the way it should be done. It's not a company's business to decide how much your life should cost. It's its business to reward you for the value you provide, and that value is not tethered to your location, so neither should be your salary!

Location independence is not the interesting part of Oxide’s compensation strategy. It’s that everyone makes exactly the same. There are no negotiations, no levels, no promotions, and consequently no promo packets or promo projects. This is extremely enticing to FAANG types who are tired of a certain kind of bullshit, at the cost of a certain level of ambition.

As a FAANG to Oxide refugee, I think what we're doing is orders of magnitude more ambitious, especially considering our small size.
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