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Yeah my intel atom NUCs run at 5W idle and 10W load and they're a ton faster than a pi 4. Probably a pi 5 too. It's not very impressive. And that's with a real SSD.
The NUC's GPIO header: crickets
If you want a small PC for media/homelab server/cheap desktop, they don't make any real sense anymore.
I think it’s notable that the chip powering the RP5 is built on a 16nm process. (The RP4 was on 26nm). This is a nearly 10 year old manufacturing process and it’s silly to compare the performance per watt to any Intel or Arm chip on the market today. On such an old node, it’s not surprising that the power draw is so high. Of course an M2 would smoke a RP5 at a much lower power. But the RP5 is 60 bucks!
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That's a easy problem to solve - https://www.adafruit.com/product/2264 There are other cheaper boards for USB to GPIO out here as well.
It solves it, as much as adding a trailer to your sports car solves your problem of not having a pickup truck. It works, but it's very inconvenient. Eventually those boards run into limitations and then you have to just opt to go with serial to a microcontroller which misses the entire point of having a SBC.
I question whether it's wise to launch a new product before the supply chain issues which have plagued Raspberry Pi for years have been fully resolved. Granted, the situation has improved slightly over the past few months. But you will still find Pi 4s out of stock more often than not. The CEO said last year not to expect a Pi 5 in 2023, because they wanted to take the time to recover. Why the u-turn? https://www.the…
My little pi CEO anecdote: Eben Upton visited local hackerspace many years ago, someone asked about Pi2 (or maybe 3) potential release date and should he wait or buy now, Eben answered they arent even planning next version. A week later Pi2 was announced.
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Yes, if I look at those new Intel N100 based mini PCs with a 15W TDP and their power / price / consumption ratio it would seems Intel took notice of the threat and reacted accordingly. Especially now that the RPI kind of need a fan and you need to buy the power supply, the storage and the case. Well the RPI has GPIO but for small home server use case nobody cares...
>Well the RPI has GPIO GPIO can be added via tons of USB to GPIO boards out there. But I agree - lot of people tend to buy the Raspberry Pis for home servers instead of just opting for used mini-PCs from secondary markets. Even a 7-8 year old Intel CPU in those mini PCs will vastly outperform a Raspberry pi. Even the Raspberry 5. Plus, better I/O options and storage with mini PC.
Depends on the use case. USB adds a few orders of magnitude more latency and jitter versus what's probably just APB.
Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.
Interesting. Do you have any links for mini PCs like that?
https://store.minisforum.com/collections/amd-%C2%AE-ryzen-%C...
https://store.minisforum.com/collections/amd-%C2%AE-ryzen-%C...
I do think these make more sense for most people. But I'll for sure be getting a Pi 5. I sold all my Pi 3 and 4 during the pandemic since I wasn't using them.
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I was lucky enough to get early access to the Pi5[1]. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. [1] Youtube Video on the RPi 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_QPM9xV_sw
How's the USB-C port on it? Is it still limited to USB 2.0? I want USB 3.0 for OTG (usb client) uses.
Rasbperry Pis are losing their competitive edge for non-embedded applications to sub $150 mini PCs, which support Linux/Windows and will come with enclosure, NVMe slot, power button etc. The mini PCs are also generally much faster.
hardware consistency and gpio are pretty big factors. rpi as a compute/media node has always sort of been secondary compared to the software/hat ecosystem -- there have essentially always been better SBC choices for those workloads/media-center-ing. personally if I wanted a media-center/nas/small-server i'd go with one of the dozens of SBCs that have onboard sata and save myself the hassle of doing it all over an ove…