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Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by kaba0 »

concordDance wrote: post #510
kaba0 wrote: post #443

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> However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct How? I mean surely it will lead humanity down some chaotic path, but I would fear climate catastrophe much much more than anything AI-related.

Note that I said AGI there, not AI. The full AGI X-risk case is hundreds of pages, unsuitable for a hackernews discussion. To oversimplify to the point of wrongness: Essentially how humans dominated our world, by being smarter.

By being smarter by a lot than animals. But Neanderthals were arguably even smarter (bigger brain capacity at least), and they have not become the dominant species (though neither were killed off as “lesser” humanoids, but mostly merged).

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Post by hospitalJail »

mandmandam wrote: post #327
browningstreet wrote: post #210

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I've never seen "nerf" used colloquially and today i've seen it at least a half-dozen times across various sites. Y'all APIs?

I've heard nerf used colloquially since like the 90's. ?

Different circles. I imagine they don't game.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by hospitalJail »

PerryCox wrote: post #74
hospitalJail wrote: post #33

I imagine the API quality isnt nerfed on a given day like ChatGPT can be. There was no question something happened in January with ChatGPT, weirdly would refuse to answer questions that were harmless but difficult(Give me a daily schedule of a stoic hedonist) Every once in a while, I see redditors complain of it being nerfed. Sometimes I go back to gpt3.5 and am mind boggled how much worse it is. Makes me wonder if t…

"Give me a daily schedule of a stoic hedonist" worked for me just now. https://chat.openai.com/share/04c1dbc0-4890-447f-b5a5-7b1bc5...

Yes, it didn't work in january. It said it was impossible/wrong to do it.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by regularfry »

ben_w wrote: post #497
regularfry wrote: post #492

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> No, he says it because its true and concerning. Both can be true. It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly. > LLMs seem like a dead end. In support of your argument, bear in mind that he's making his argument with knowledge of what un -nerfed LLMs at GPT-4 level are capable of.

> It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly. While this is absolutely true, it's extremely unlikely that a de jure monopoly would end up at OpenAI's feet rather than any of the FAANGs'. Even in just the USA, and the rest of the world has very different attitudes to risks, freedoms, and dat…

> While this is absolutely true, it's extremely unlikely that a de jure monopoly would end up at OpenAI's feet rather than any of the FAANGs'

Possibly. The Microsoft tie-up complicates things a bit from that point of view. It wouldn't shock me if we were all using Azure GPT-5 in a few years' time.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by aeonque »

ftxbro wrote: post #176

> "Starting today, all paying API customers have access to GPT-4." OK maybe I'm stupid but I am a paying OpenAI API customer and I don't have it yet. I see: gpt-3.5-turbo-16k gpt-3.5-turbo gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613 gpt-3.5-turbo-0613 gpt-3.5-turbo-0301 I don't see any gpt-4 Edit: Probably my problem is that I upgraded to paid API account within the last month, so I'm not technically a "paying API customer" yet according…

Same issue, any updates?

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Post by raxxorraxor »

dcow wrote: post #371
slaymaker1907 wrote: post #338

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I guess ignoring copyright and treating the whole internet as your training data does have its advantages.

Yes? That’s the point. Who cares about an outdated concept that has no digital analog? All the artists have moved on already #midjourney.

No, I doubt artists have moved on. And if they want no artificial gatekeeper, than it is #stablediffusion instead of #midjourney.

I would argue that it creates better images too.

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Post by ben_w »

regularfry wrote: post #514
ben_w wrote: post #497

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> It is extremely convenient to someone who already has an asset if the nature of that asset means they can make a convincing argument that they should be granted a monopoly. While this is absolutely true, it's extremely unlikely that a de jure monopoly would end up at OpenAI's feet rather than any of the FAANGs'. Even in just the USA, and the rest of the world has very different attitudes to risks, freedoms, and dat…

> While this is absolutely true, it's extremely unlikely that a de jure monopoly would end up at OpenAI's feet rather than any of the FAANGs' Possibly. The Microsoft tie-up complicates things a bit from that point of view. It wouldn't shock me if we were all using Azure GPT-5 in a few years' time.

It's possible, I don't put much weight on it given all the anti-trust actions past and present, but it's possible.

Re: GPT-4 API General Availability

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Post by raxxorraxor »

concordDance wrote: post #430
joeythedolphin wrote: post #396

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Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. Then get goes to euro and speaks with world leaders to remove consumer protection. Why? So he can mine data without any consequences. He is a narcissistic CEO who lies to win. If you are tired of the past decade of electronic corporate tyranny, abuse, manipulation and lies, then boycott OpenAi (…

> Sam tells Congress that AI is so dangerous it will extinct humanity. Why? So Congress can license him and only his buddies. No, he says it because its true and concerning. However, just because AGI has a good chance of making humanity extinct does not mean we're anywhere close to making AIs that capable. LLMs seem like a dead end.

And he should get an exclusive licence for that. I don't think it is the time for religion here.

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Post by mdale »

PostOnce wrote: post #368
andai wrote: post #275

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Which models are you using and for which tasks? I have found local models largely a waste of time (except for very simple tasks with very heavy prompting). But perhaps there are some recent breakthroughs I haven't seen yet.

I'm using a variety of 7 and 13B models (and a 3B one for fast feedback loop debugging) at between 8bit and 4_K_M quantizations. Depending on your pre-prompt, your fine-tune (i.e. which model you downloaded), and your specific task, the results can be startlingly good, it's crazy that you can do this on a $250 laptop. I stay up nights working on it lately, it's so interesting. More importantly, things change by the d…

I don't think the "corrupt our government" thing is going to happen . The wave of change is too large the tech is moving too fast and into evey facet of data and software. There is competition globally and locally; a regulatory slow down is unlikely.

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Post by kubanczyk »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #477
dahwolf wrote: post #277

Personally, I'm forever locked out of OpenAI. I had the silly idea of trying to change the signin method of my account. Which isn't possible. So I figured to just delete the account and create a new one with the correct signin method. Turns out they don't delete anything. Both the email address and phone number are held hostage. As you try to create a new account, it will point out that those are in use. I can easily…

Stop making this so difficult. Just use a different phone number. There are sites to do this for literally $0.10. But yeah whining on HN would be more productive

dahwolf is not making anything difficult. He or she is just using the support site for openAI, the one that actually works. /s
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