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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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But the argument does become a lot weaker unless they changed the shade of green after introducing iMessage. If it stayed the same, then it's just the design they chose from the beginning. Also worth noting is that the color only applies to sent messages. When you receive a message, it's just gray in either case. It makes a certain amount of sense to let the user know which transport their outbound message went on si…

They did change the shade of green, and the newer one is much less readable. See for yourself: Original: https://ronstauffer.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/taking-a-pic... Current: https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare...

It may just be that I happen to have my reading glasses on right now, but both of those are easy to read.

But let's run with that for a moment, and assume many people do in fact find that more difficult to read. I still have trouble calling that particularly hostile given that it's sent messages, received ones are the same color no matter what.

I'm more open to the green vs blue argument than the old-green vs new-green one. Apple definitely wants you to know you're using iMessage. It just happens to be useful for me as a customer, too -- I'm glad it's prominent when I send a text message instead of an iMessage. It aligns my expectations for what features will work in the conversation.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

Apple stuff is always anti-consumer, it's not an edge thing at all.

In the terminal it has a nice "search with Google" option and I can not figure out how to get MacOS to stop opening Safari with that.

Every time I use Apple products I get frustrated at how it blocks me from doing what I want to do.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Ugh can't wait until Linux is accessible for blind people like me. Y'all seen the new Windows File Explorer context menu? Freaking sucks. I'm sure I've posted this here before but dang, it just keeps getting worse.

Thanks to wayland, it's about to get even worse instead of better. Linux had surpassed windows in most aspects already (and I am enjoying this - no Windows on any machine, not even for gaming, thanks to Proton), then came Wayland and unfortunately it wasn't widely ignored.

Please understand that I understand the reasons behind Wayland, that the Wayland Devs are also behind X, and that X is an awful mess. I know and I believe, but Wayland is still the worst solution for the problem X created, in my humble view.

Please also accept that this is not a criticism of the awesomeness of Wayland/X devs. They are awesome. But they also were tired of X, and the result is, Wayland is undercomplex by at least a gut-factor of 10. And anything accessiibility-related is part of that.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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But the argument does become a lot weaker unless they changed the shade of green after introducing iMessage. If it stayed the same, then it's just the design they chose from the beginning. Also worth noting is that the color only applies to sent messages. When you receive a message, it's just gray in either case. It makes a certain amount of sense to let the user know which transport their outbound message went on si…

They kinda did just not immediately. iMessage was introduced in iOS 5 pre-redesign. It used to be black text on a lighter green. With iOS 7 they moved to white text on searing green.

From my memories of that UI design shift, nobody cared much about text messages in particular, because we generally hated all of the flattened, vivid color and white text graphics. But it's been a while, maybe I'm misremembering how annoyed people were. That was when we lost skeuomorphic design, as I recall, which some people were/are very attracted to.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Windows is just full of hostile, anti-user patterns these days. I've considered building a windows box just to have a gaming rig multiple times over the last few years, but every time an article like this or their crusade against Chrome reminds me that Bill Gates is still the same anti-trust monster he was in the 90s.

I have a windows gaming rig. You can download windows for free (11, 12, 13 or whatever the latest one is I can’t remember) on the official website. That’s what I use. It comes with some missing features like not being able to change certain personalised settings and a weird background but it’s 99% the same and more than enough for steam and gaming.

Enjoy!

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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You can't think of Microsoft, or any company, as a monolith or personify them. The question is not how Microsoft benefits from this but rather which executive benefits from this. Given that I believe Windows team is now grouped together with the Bing (and Edge) team, I think the reasons for these sorts of changes are obvious.

If you think it's so obvious, why don't you provide the answer? I don't think GP would have posted the question if it were obvious to them. Whether you talk about Microsoft-the-firm or Microsoft-the-shareholders when asking about "what's in it for them": that's the same thing because it's a for-profit business, so that's an irrelevant thing to post as well.

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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It's part of a long term plan. A couple of years ago I noticed the same decision in Control Panel help links. They do not allow choosing a different Open With other than Microsoft programs. Even though I had some other browser installed, the only browser in the list of Open With was Edge.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#518

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

> Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search

Unless you are referring to the search field on google.com, it is not hijacking’s your google searches. It is suggesting actions based on your input to the url bar.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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WSL2 in Windows means you can just run a Debian underneath and launch a non-snap Firefox from there and have it appears in Windows. Now you get the benefit of Windows power management (and that beautiful laptop battery life) but a web browser Microsoft isn't going to mess with. This sounds hilarious were it not the way I actually work. PS: I'll also mention that VSCode from Windows to WSL2 + Debian is a mind-blowingl…

How are you supposed to discover and use WSL? I got fed up with trying to run Fusion360 on Linux, no longer had a Mac, and reignited my long disused Windows installation recently. Updated and restarted. Looked around for WSL, nothing. Searched online, loads of blog spam of mixed helpfulness, no way of telling (for me, new to it) if they were v1 or v2, no basic information like they're talking about Ubuntu but is that…

I’ve found running a VM easier than WINE, FYI. LookingGlass?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

#520

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

also denying full access to pencil api so that 3rd party pencils cannot compete with the official ones. and lack of user profiles on ipads so they cannot be easily shared among family.

What parts of the API? I've never used a first party one, but the generic $10 one I got on aliexpress worked fine on an ipad6.
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