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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by ahoya »

unpopular42 wrote: post #440
LeifCarrotson wrote: post #155

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They're hoping to sell to you based on the value it provides rather than the cost to produce the thing. Classic sales reframing tactic for obscene 500%+ margin products: You should buy this thing far above market rate because it's worth a lot to you, not because it's priced at a realistic BOM + labor + reasonable profit margin.

If you sell at BOM + labor + reasonable profit margin, who pays for R&D and who covers the risks? This makes no sense

Are you joking? The reasonable profit margin pays for R&D. Unreasonable margins and over priced crap hurts everyone.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by wiseowise »

toastal wrote: post #454
wiseowise wrote: post #390

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It’s useless for majority of people.

Who? The folks feeling forced to ‘convert’ because the phone cabal decided matching earbuds that require replacement in a year or two was more profitable? Prior to device manufacturers doing this trend, everyone I knew had wired headphones.

Majority of people that I see around me and in the streets use wireless headphones.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by bheadmaster »

MrOwnPut wrote: post #508
bheadmaster wrote: post #503

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I think that if you're a public figure, people making fun of your physical traits is inevitable. There's a whole industry based on throwing cheap shots at celebrities, the yellow press . Ignoring them is the only rational response, because they feed off controversy - they're the journalist version of internet trolls. The fact that a public figure would put so much effort into proving that they don't have small hands…

I believe the "joke" is used far more than the few times he's addressed it. If anything, it's the people constantly saying it who are obsessed with Trump, not the other way around. The media will stir up controversy anyway, you may as well reply and get your side in, otherwise they are dictating the conversation and truth. And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement.

> And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement.

I strongly disagree. Narcissistic personality disorder is very much real - I have diagnosed family members, and the way their mind works is completely different from one of a "normal" person. I can't quite explain it, but if you experienced it, I believe you'd know the difference.

You believing that makes me think that you either haven't had to deal with a real narcissist in your life, or are a narcissist yourself. The former is more likely, but I don't know you, so I can't speak with certainty.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by MrOwnPut »

bheadmaster wrote: post #513
MrOwnPut wrote: post #508

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I believe the "joke" is used far more than the few times he's addressed it. If anything, it's the people constantly saying it who are obsessed with Trump, not the other way around. The media will stir up controversy anyway, you may as well reply and get your side in, otherwise they are dictating the conversation and truth. And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement.

> And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement. I strongly disagree. Narcissistic personality disorder is very much real - I have diagnosed family members, and the way their mind works is completely different from one of a "normal" person. I can't quite explain it, but if you experienced it, I believe you'd know the difference. You believing that makes me think that you either…

There may be people with a bad case of it, I assume it's on a spectrum like many personality traits, but the term is heavily overused.

I see it mainly used when someone doesn't agree with the other person's line of reasoning.

Just right now, my denial of it nearly had you diagnosing me with it.

Might as well just go back to calling people heretics.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by CydeWeys »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #500
junon wrote: post #498

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I always thought it was a marketing thing, since the diagonal is always larger than the individual axes.

The area would be an even bigger number. Wonder if marketers determined the concept of area was too complicated compared to the concept of a linear diagonal measurement. Or a 2 digit number is easier to remember and digest than 3 or 4 digits, and 1 digit is too small, such as measuring in squared feet or meters.

TVs are large enough now that square feet would work, for markets where that unit is used anyway. For other markets ... Uhhh, would anyone understand deci square meters?

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by zczc »

junon wrote: post #498
Frost1x wrote: post #473

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>The diagonal only made sense for TVs because the aspect ratio was fixed at 4:3 (and later 16:9). I'm not entirely sure it made sense even then. I completely understand the point (knowing the AR allows one metric to consistently compare and derive the other dimensions) but in my opinion, diagonals became ubiquitous because when looking at TVs, bigger was typically better in the consumer mind and the diagonal is of co…

I always thought it was a marketing thing, since the diagonal is always larger than the individual axes.

Historically the diagonal was a natural metric because it corresponds to the diameter of the early round CRTs (e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:7JP4)

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by lotsofpulp »

zczc wrote: post #516
junon wrote: post #498

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I always thought it was a marketing thing, since the diagonal is always larger than the individual axes.

Historically the diagonal was a natural metric because it corresponds to the diameter of the early round CRTs (e.g. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:7JP4 )

This is interesting! So maybe it was mainly inertia that propelled diagonal measurement marketing and there is insufficient reason to change.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by kevinventullo »

MrOwnPut wrote: post #458
bheadmaster wrote: post #455

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Well, that explains it. Seems like US has a lot of these inside jokes that don't make sense to someone who only sees snippets of the whole historical timeline. Thanks for sharing.

It's more of a petty "joke" that leftists use because they don't have anything else. It's at the level of a modern SNL skit, all superficial and more of a "mean girl" insult on appearance than satire. GP was correct in saying "no one cares about that or if it is true." That's not the point, the point is to insult.

You make a fair point. He’s actually a very reasonable person with a nuanced yet coherent policy platform, but those darn lefties just can’t get over his hands. As you said, they don’t have anything else; there is absolutely no other criticism that these folks have for Trump.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by bheadmaster »

MrOwnPut wrote: post #514
bheadmaster wrote: post #513

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> And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement. I strongly disagree. Narcissistic personality disorder is very much real - I have diagnosed family members, and the way their mind works is completely different from one of a "normal" person. I can't quite explain it, but if you experienced it, I believe you'd know the difference. You believing that makes me think that you either…

There may be people with a bad case of it, I assume it's on a spectrum like many personality traits, but the term is heavily overused. I see it mainly used when someone doesn't agree with the other person's line of reasoning. Just right now, my denial of it nearly had you diagnosing me with it. Might as well just go back to calling people heretics.

> There may be people with a bad case of it, I assume it's on a spectrum like many personality traits, but the term is heavily overused.

> I see it mainly used when someone doesn't agree with the other person's line of reasoning.

I agree, but that's not what you said. What you said was "And we're all narcissists... that's nature. It's such a pointless and empty statement", declaring that narcissism, as a category, doesn't exist.

> Just right now, my denial of it nearly had you diagnosing me with it.

I did not "diagnose" you with it because you disagree with me. The reason I said it's a possibility is because you said that narcissism doesn't exist and that everybody's a narcissist. Depressed people think everyone is depressed, paranoid people think their paranoia is just normal skepticism. Our human mind projects a lot of our own qualities onto others. From your denial of existence of narcissism, I could only conclude that you either don't have a precise representation of narcissism in your mind, or that you do have a precise representation of narcissism but project it onto others as a self-defense mechanism. If my assessment is not true, please tell me what could the third reason be - why else would someone deny existence of narcissism?

But, we see now that you don't think that narcissism isn't real, only that Trump is just a little bit narcissistic, so this whole comment is pointless.

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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Post by andrewaylett »

bluk wrote: post #303
rtpg wrote: post #266

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Is there a place that has empirical data on this stuff? Like what battery factoids are still true with the latest devices or not? I would honestly love for phone manufacturers to outright build in some software to build in best practices if they actually exist. Don't let me charge to 100% at first or something!

I don't believe Apple has released empirical data, but Apple has optimized phone charging built into recent versions of iOS (Settings > Battery > Battery Health and Charging). It will stop at 80% and then resume charging to 100% about an hour before you start using your phone every day. iOS tracks your daily habits to determine the start of your day. In the most recent iOS versions, if it can determine when "clean en…

At least some Android devices have the same, it keys off your alarm if you have one set. My Pixel 6 Pro will also take advantage of chargers' ability to supply different amounts of power to not charge as quickly as it's physically capable of doing if it thinks I've put it on charge for the night.
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