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Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
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There is no "English" here, it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/De-Bach....
The accurate pronunciation in German is irrelevant. Siri is always constrained to one language (Settings > General > Language & Region), and when set to English you get English pronunciations. Same way Siri understands the english “Los Angeles” even though the G sound is completely different from Spanish. The english IPA for Bach is straightforward.
> Siri is always constrained to one language
Not only Siri — the whole iOS. You can’t type a sentence switching languages in the middle, without changing the keyboard language all the time, if you have autocorrect enabled. It will change what you type into utter gibberish, even though without the “correcting” what you type is perfectly correct. This system is quite visibly designed by people who speak only one language and don’t understand that people may want to use multiple languages at the same time. The keyboard should support a mix of languages, instead of making a XOR between languages, because otherwise when it starts, it’s almost always in the wrong mode, and if it isn’t, it will almost certainly be wrong by the end of what I write.
Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
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I use Siri to set reminders except it is completely unable to handle reminders like “remind me this afternoon to follow up with Joe about the event on June 25”. It sees the June 25 and the reminder is now for the afternoon of June 25. I manage a theater, so this is a very very common scenario and it’s super frustrating. It speaks to there being no real understanding going on, just pattern matching on things that look…
You could use shorthand for date and times in the title. I tried your prompt saying "J N 2 5" instead but apparently "this afternoon" is 5PM, so that's odd.
Siri hard codes this afternoon to mean literally right after 12 PM. So if at 1pm you ask it to remind you to do something this afternoon, it will put it at 12:00pm the following day. I just double checked it right now. It’s currently 12:18 PM, and I asked Siri “remind me to test this in the afternoon“ and it set a reminder for tomorrow at 12:00 PM
Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
#515I’m frankly surprised that Siri hasn’t moved to on-device voice recognition. It’s by far my biggest complaint with Siri: random, unpredictable delays or outright failures to recognize simple messages because the network is unstable or unavailable. There’s other trash too: the other day I tried asking Siri to play a song from my library, but it misinterpreted the song title and proceeded to activate a seven day trial…
Except they already do this? Since iOS 15, Siri has used on-device recognition. That's why you can go into Airplane mode and do things like ask Siri to change the brightness.
Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
#516I’m frankly surprised that Siri hasn’t moved to on-device voice recognition. It’s by far my biggest complaint with Siri: random, unpredictable delays or outright failures to recognize simple messages because the network is unstable or unavailable. There’s other trash too: the other day I tried asking Siri to play a song from my library, but it misinterpreted the song title and proceeded to activate a seven day trial…
> because the network is unstable or unavailable All of Apple’s services by and large handle spotty networks horribly . Take Apple Music for example: if you want to play music you’ve downloaded to your device, it’s often better to switch into airplane mode, because with a present-but-poor signal it will still try to load album listings etc over the network, and sit there on a spinner.
This is so annoying! Every single time I try to play downloaded music on a bad connection it stalls instead of just playing the audio I literally have stored on my device. 100% agree with you that turning on Airplane mode makes it easier to play AM on iOS.
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#517I’d love to see a survey of people’s hit/miss rate with Siri, but with the extra dimension of what accent they have and how thick it is. IME, Siri’s speech recognition is actually quite fantastic (I almost never have an issue with a dictated text message saying the wrong thing), but: - I have a very standard midwest american accent - I talk to siri like I’m a pilot talking to ATC: As clearly and succinctly as possibl…
You must have had some issue being understood, or you wouldn't have adopted the careful speech pattern. I suspect it's hard to do a realistic test. Two of the most common use cases seems to be kitchen timers and playing music. Both imply a noisy environment.
Maybe, but why is this important?
Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
#518Siri is without a doubt in my mind the most embarrassing thing Apple has had on the market in the past 20 years. With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini. Honestly I would have been concerned if Apple employees weren’t frustrated with Siri. Pretty sure they need to take Siri out to pasture and start some LLM-based project from scratch.
It's not really "embarrassing". It's just old tech that was created in 2003 when the most common platform was Athlon XP CPUs, and that was okay-ish for its time, and it may take time to migrate current dataset.
It is embarrassing, Google Assistant is it's competitor.
Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says
#519I find it the worst when giving driving directions for most streets and towns in New Zealand because Siri has not been trained recognize or pronounce Maori names. So you ask for directions to ie Oneroa (oh-ner-ROW-a) will attempt to find own-ERRR-ua and explain that it doesn't exist. What laziness! How hard is it to train siri in all languages?
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Their swype-style keyboard is an absolute joke—perhaps the most infuriating part of my iphone. I know that it’s easier to criticize than it is to implement, but my god, just a basic markov chain would yield more intelligible results than the shit it comes up with.
What are your talking about? You done like it converting “your” to “your” on every damn time you type the word? Note: the above paragraph was typed with swipe typing. I actually typed “Y O U” for both of the above instances of “your.” Apple swipe typing is the opposite of AI: it’s like an idiot is going behind you taking even correct words you swipe and turning them into gibberish. Don’t even get me started about its…
I never write on an iphone, so didn't know today's ridiculous apostrophizing is an autocorrect thing - but that could explain why people sound like idiots or would that be sound like idiot's on the internet.