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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by oski »

yosefjaved1 wrote: post #359

Wow. RIP Bob Lee. He died at Harrison and Main st. That area is tame compared to the mission, tenderloin, and other spots in SOMA. Of all places, I would never have guessed a stabbing would occur there but I haven't been in the area since 2020. Just a give a sense of the place, the area has a lot of apartments and skyrises. A friend of mine lived two blocks away at the jasper building. We would walk around there at n…

While that area is usually pretty quiet, it is pretty close to the on-ramp to the Bay Bridge. This is purely speculation, but it is plausible that the crime was perpetrated by someone from the East Bay looking for a quick getaway.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by mrits »

JeremyNT wrote: post #364
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Only millionaires can afford to live in SF now due to the tech money. This displaces the middle class and poor, and leads to homelessness and increased crime.

It may lead to homelessness but certainly not the only thing that does. In Austin you don't need to be a millionaire and the city takes 1 step forward 2 steps back with our homelessness problem.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by eric_cc »

rswerve wrote: post #249
atdrummond wrote: post #158

Nothing will change. I was attacked in Christmas ‘21 in the Tenderloin, right after walking out of the KFC/Taco Bell on Eddy. Two cop cars drove by me and did nothing. It was only due to an ambulance finishing a run at Sutter and spotting me that I didn’t bleed out on the suitcase. I have video, proof of damages physical and financial, eyewitnesses and the info of the men who attacked me. SFPD will not arrest them be…

I don’t know your case, but it’s also possible that the police won’t make an arrest because police in America tend to go on low-key strike when a liberal prosecutor is elected, and then loudly proclaim that the DA is undermining the rule of law. This article is about a different kind of “police pullback,” but the underlying phenomenon—cops won’t work when they’re challenged—is the same. https://www.propublica.org/art…

> police in America tend to go on low-key strike when a liberal prosecutor is elected

This is not true nor is it verifiable. This is a bullshit political talking point. And it’s ridiculous.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by adamsmith143 »

JeremyNT wrote: post #444
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Jesus, the bubble the typical HN SV commenter must live in. I'm sure it's frustrating to see crime rates increase, but "incredibly dangerous?" SF still has far less crime per capita than many of its peer cities. Where are all the displaced SV millionaires moving with dramatically lower crime rates…

4th highest property crime rate in the entire nation. Middle of the pack for violent crime. Many have left for Austin, Texas which has half as much property crime and almost half as much violent crime per capita. So yeah significantly safer.

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Post by balls187 »

Equiet wrote: post #440
kodisha wrote: post #267

I am very spoiled by living in one of the European capitals. It's super safe here, and it's normal thing to see young females taking a dog out for a walk in 22-02h. I visit SF at least once a year, and default to my learned habit of walking alone, and later at night. No more.

Lots of comments about relative safety of US vs European cities. Looking at the data, you need to scroll past 9 US cities (all big cities) until you find the first European city (relatively small city you never have a reason to go to) in this crime ranking: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings.jsp Europe is definitely safer than the US.

Aside for the active warzone.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by tlogan »

clsec wrote: post #483
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

>Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent Interesting that you say this after our progressive DA was recalled & our mayor is trying to supplement the SFPD budget by $27.6M. Also interesting, I have lived in SF since 1972 and only been mugged once, in my 1st yr there (I was 7 & mugged by kids across the street in the projects for my Mickey M watch and about $0.50). I will freel…

Good for you.

But I do not feel safe at all. What do your kids and grandkids say about SF? Maybe that is generational - I’m in 50s.

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Post by zacharytelschow »

ubermonkey wrote: post #486
Dem_Boys wrote: post #469

Could someone please enlighten me on why we don't treat governing like we do software solutions? When I'm given a task to complete, my first instinct is to find where other developers have done what I'm asked to do and then utilize their wisdom into my own solution which will likely look very similar to theirs. Why do we see such drastically different approaches to solving issues in society and government? Want bette…

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> The is primarily due to the conservative party's realization half a century ago that they could motivate their base with rage and grievance politics instead of with good policy, and win doing so

Democrats are mayors of 31 of the nation's 34 largest cities, most of which are places I certainly would not care to live. Is it "good policy" that lead to the reason for this article, or are all of San Francisco's 8 Republicans to blame for this tragedy?

> The GOP is all about anger and, honestly, hate.

Ahhh yes. Supporting school choice to get inner city kids out of crap schools is hate based. Not wanting children who aren't even able to consent to going on school field trips to make permanent, life altering decisions by destroying their bodies? Clearly an anger thing.

> It's easier to sell "hey, just get more cops" than to explain that crime is often driven by economics

Yep, people are stealing iPhones because they're starving. That's 100% a thing that is happening. And violent crime surely has economic advantage attached to it, right? The guy who killed Bob is now richer thanks to his actions?

You appear to be completely unable to engage on the issues in good faith while whining that "the other side" is doing exactly the same thing.

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Post by mrits »

blondie9x wrote: post #191
martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Homeless is just the wrong word. It should be something else.

I'm imagining running through a WW2 field doing triage and telling the battle wounded that the doctors are behind you but you are making sure that no one offends them verbally. If you take the issue seriously it is more offensive to waste energy on what we decide is an appropriate label for other people.

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Post by vlovich123 »

In this thread everyone blaming homeless and the poor without any context of who the perpetrator is. It’s a big leap from shoplifting to a stabbing/murder. Also consider that even if the shoplifting/car break ins is being committed by the poor, they could be being directed by organized crime which is quite active in the area (look at the high profile heists in downtown that occurred in the past few years). The car break-ins in particular are as I understand it primarily organized crime not the homeless.
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