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Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Pointing out sanctimony or hypocrisy is not a valid argument against. It's is a kind of ad hominem. A person can be both right and sanctimonious

Weird to me it’s being read as sanctimony. My intent was just to convey “I was a driver for 22 years I am allowed to say we are entitled behind the wheel.” Maybe people feel guilty about owning cars so it rubbed them wrong? Some people have to, I’m lucky enough to not. I don’t think I’m better, just emotionally liberated. It’s an amazing feeling to have the privilege of not having to drive or park, get psychotically…

For many of us, including myself, such a "luxury" is not practical:

1. I like the outdoors and they don't put bus lines 200 miles from the nearest gas station.

2. Work is often further than walking or biking distance.

3. I need to haul more than a few days worth of groceries. Or a larger item.

I think what people are getting upset at is you are conflating not driving with some higher form of intellect when in reality it's a privilege really only afforded to people who live in often high cost of living areas. This implies a socioeconomic status to yourself whether you like it or not and so people feel you are talking down to them. I interpreted it as you were talking down to me too. It's not about me being "done" with road rage, or whatever, it's about the fact that my town, my life, and the country in general won't let me be "done" with it. Nor will my hobbies. For many of us a car is not a privilege it's an absolutely basal level necessity. No amount of cheerleading for the anti-car crowd will change that. I suspect it won't change in my lifetime either.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Recently minted Car Guy here. Start with Ford or Chevy anything pre-1975, expect to spend 5000-7000 for a running older vehicle in need of maintenance and body work. PArts are ubiquitous and you'll be blown away by how simple engines can be to understand and work on without all of the ECM/emissions-era add-ons under the hood to contend with. Learn to love calling the support line @ JEGS or Summit Racing before orderi…

you'll be blown away by how simple engines can be to understand and work on without all of the ECM/emissions-era add-ons under the hood to contend with But you’ve also gotta be selfish enough to think that your pollutants don’t matter and that 1970’s era smog wasn’t a big deal. And you have to hope that older cars are still grandfathered in to pollution regulations and they won’t be subject to mileage limits as cars…

Oh I bet you're a real treat at parties. You over there pretending the vanishingly small handful of classic cars that still exist and are capable of being driven aren't a rounding error in the context of air pollution in general and global warming specifically? Let me guess, you also think eliminating dairy and meat production would result in a meaningful reduction in global CO2 emissions...

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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you'll be blown away by how simple engines can be to understand and work on without all of the ECM/emissions-era add-ons under the hood to contend with But you’ve also gotta be selfish enough to think that your pollutants don’t matter and that 1970’s era smog wasn’t a big deal. And you have to hope that older cars are still grandfathered in to pollution regulations and they won’t be subject to mileage limits as cars…

Oh I bet you're a real treat at parties. You over there pretending the vanishingly small handful of classic cars that still exist and are capable of being driven aren't a rounding error in the context of air pollution in general and global warming specifically? Let me guess, you also think eliminating dairy and meat production would result in a meaningful reduction in global CO2 emissions...

I’m not talking about registered classic or antique cars which have mileage or usage restrictions in most states that would prevent it from being a daily driver. And neither was the person you’re replying to that wants to avoid modern cars and keep his on the road indefinitely. And I’m not even talking about CO2 pollution which doesn’t form smog.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Take my angry upvote. "My truck done left me and my cellphone said I'm broke"

FWIW, this was the number one comment yesterday on the Reddit thread about this.

i think is based on the fact that more devs have been raised by reddit by now ;)

For instance:

i found hn throuh r/hackernews

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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Brace yourself then, because the future of automotive is highly connected, and in many ways it already is. Every car since the early 2000s has computerized components that control everything from power steering to infotainment systems, and your car probably already communicates with some servers using a built in cellular sim. Hackers have been able to compromise cars for at least a couple of decades, and while car ma…

This is why I only buy old cars. If that becomes impossible in the future, that would be enough to get me to finally give up owning a car entirely.

Hell, some old cars are well supported by completely open-source ECUs. Sadly, the number one best supported car is always the damn Miata.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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The amount of mental gymnastics I hear from people who illegally park or obstruct society for their own selfish reasons is beyond me. There are places to park, there are places to not park, they don't have an overlap.

I don't agree with this. I'm from the US and have now lived in Japan for 6+ years. We have zero on street parking around the city, yet we joke that the hazard lights button is the "park anywhere" button, and you see it all the time. Because nobody strongly abuses this, it generally works fine and people go on with their lives around them. Even with the small neighborhood streets around Tokyo, you rarely see it being…

This is very common behaviour (and known as the "park wherever the f you want" button among my friends) in Italy as well. But italians are not exactly the best example of drivers to imitate and learn from

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

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This is why I only buy old cars. If that becomes impossible in the future, that would be enough to get me to finally give up owning a car entirely.

Hell, some old cars are well supported by completely open-source ECUs. Sadly, the number one best supported car is always the damn Miata.

Likely because they are inexpensive and are beloved track cars. I was hoping the GT88/BRZ would oust the miata from this position- I much prefer a hard top over a convertible, but I think the existing after market and price point make it hard to compete.

Re: Future Fords could repossess themselves and drive away if you miss payments

#520

The problem with this isn't the idea of a car repossessing itself per se, because repossession is already a legitimate thing; it's the idea that your car can be remotely controlled by anyone other than you. There are already so many things that can go wrong. I don't want to buy a car that can be remotely disabled because I drove near a protest, or because there was a "clerical error" at Ford, or because my payment di…

There’s a video of a Jeep getting remote controlled in the middle of a highway, all because the audio and entertainment system was connected to the brain. Iirc wired had an article on this.
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