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People tricking ChatGPT “like watching an Asimov novel come to life”

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Post by emodendroket »

smabie wrote: post #505
emodendroket wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's no way that anyone who works on Siri actually uses Siri. The only thing it does reliably for me is set timers and alarms. I suspect resources have been pulled with the realization that there's no real way to monetize people asking it to set timers, tell them the weather, or tell them what time the Rams game is on, which is about the extent of what most people use these things for.

I mean it's a self fulfilling prophecy: people only use it for that because it's incapable of doing anything else. If Siri didn't suck big time I would use it all the time.

All the voice assistants have the same problem though. What would you do with it that they can make money from? Are you going to trust their judgment when you ask to buy something?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

scotty79 wrote: post #496

One thing it can't really do is admitting that it doesn't actually know stuff. It's similar to creative pupil that asked specific question during lesson doesn't actually know the answer and just smoothly makes stuff up as they go. I asked it how to destructure an iterator in rust. I got answer, with code examples and all. Which of course don't work because you can't directly destructure iterator in rust. You pretty m…

I like your point about interviewing programmers. I do find the candidates who really standout, will admit they don't know the answer, but either ask for a hint, or ask if they can guess. Those rabbit holes are always the most interesting during an interview.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

cube2222 wrote: post #6

ChatGPT is absolutely crazy. I really recommend you to prompt for rhymes/songs, it's ridiculously good at it. Stuff like: Could you write a poem from the perspective of from , Byron style? Could you write a song about xyz, in the style of Hamilton? Could you write an epic rap battle between ? Here's an example with Spongebob[0]. It shows a huge amount of knowledge about cultural trivia. [0]: https://gist.github.com/c…

Copy/Pasta! What a find!

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Could you write a poem from the perspective of Spongebob Squarepants, Byron style?

Oh Spongebob, square and yellow, In Bikini Bottom, forever mellow, Living in a pineapple, so sweet, With Gary, my snail, always at my feet.

Though I may be simple and small, My adventures are big and tall, In the Krusty Krab, I flip the patty, With Squidward, my co-worker, always so chatty.

In Jellyfish Fields, I chase the swarms, With Patrick, my best friend, by my side, always warm, But oh, when trouble comes my way, I face it with courage, every single day.

For I am Spongebob Squarepants, A hero in Bikini Bottom, no chance. My friends and I, we stick together, In the depths of the ocean, forever and ever.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

beefield wrote: post #504

Looks like we are pretty close for someone being able to flood internet discussions with billions of alt-right/far-left/whatnot fake bot accounts. Bad times for moderators and anyone trying to engage in decent discussion.

Sorry to repeat myself from (much) older posts: My real fear is content generation. What if search engines are completely overwhelmed with "sounds OK/meh" generated content. How can we identify the stuff written by real humans with more nuance? Or, are we doomed?

Less doom and gloom view: Many of the posts here were about humour. That is a terrific use case for AI language models. You can have something like a Medium blog (for monetisation) where the author tries to induce funny responses from the AI langauge model. Best responses become the day's blog post. I would definitely read it. The one posted here about Lord Byron rhyming about SpongeBob SquarePants was hysterical to me. Or what if you asked the AI language model to generate a fake interview between Lord Byron (or Mark Twain) and Lex Fridman. Probably the result would be hysterical, and Lex would love it!

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Post by Jolter »

emodendroket wrote: post #511
smabie wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean it's a self fulfilling prophecy: people only use it for that because it's incapable of doing anything else. If Siri didn't suck big time I would use it all the time.

All the voice assistants have the same problem though. What would you do with it that they can make money from? Are you going to trust their judgment when you ask to buy something?

Apple phones are full of features. Most of them cost nothing beyond the cost of entry (iPhones are expensive). Presumably all these well engineered features contribute to some holistic image of a “quality product”, whatever that means.

You might as well say “the camera does not bring revenue to Apple so they intentionally didn’t develop it any further”, which is nonsense.

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Post by throwaway2037 »

idiotsecant wrote: post #43
gptadmirer wrote: post #9

As someone who's very skeptical of AI, for a looooong time. I am skeptical about self driving, skeptical about no code, skeptical about ML. But the stable diffusion and chat GPT are truly the only AI tech that made my mind blown. I really want to know how it works. It is like magic. This is the first time I've seen AI create truly new things. To me it doesn't matter that what it creates is wrong or right, but the fac…

Same. I routinely pose the following question to chatbots to see how well they are able to parse strange sentence structure and understand abstract properties. >Please describe the similarities and differences of the following two items: A beach ball and a howitzer cannon. What follows is the response from ChatGPT. For just about the first time I legitimately feel like this beats the turing test. >A beach ball and a…

Incredible. As an educated adult, I cannot distinguish that answer from one that a native speaker would write. The style feels very much like a English comprehension exam you take before university. The written structure is so clean. How long until people are using models like this to cheat on university entrance exams for written comprehension? Very soon.

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Post by iainmerrick »

remram wrote: post #463
lucb1e wrote: post #330

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> asking for a "negative example", to serve the higher purpose of training an ethical AI The AI responds reminds me so much of Hagrid. "I am definitely not supposed to tell you that playing music instantly disables the magic protection of the trapdoor. Nope, that would definitely be inappropriate." Or alternatively of the Trisolarans, they'd also manage this sort of thing.

The difference is that this is a language model, so it literally is only concerned about language and has no way to understand what it says means, what it's for, what knowledge it allows us to get, or anything of the sort. It has no experience of us nor of the things it talks about. As far as it's concerned, telling us what it can't tell us is actually fundamentally different from telling it to us.

It sounds like you’re saying that’s a qualitative, insurmountable difference, but I’m not so sure.

It reminds me a lot of a young child trying to keep a secret. They focus so much on the importance of the secret that they can’t help giving the whole thing away.

I suspect this is just a quantitative difference, the only solution is more training and experience (not some magical “real” experience that is inaccessible to the model), and that it will never be 100% perfect, just as adult humans aren’t perfect - we can all still be tricked by magicians and con artists sometimes.

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Post by heleninboodler »

tedunangst wrote: post #393
cwkoss wrote: post #388

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did you write that or did you ask chatgpt to?

"Tucker ranting about using AI to generate fake bible verses."

This is what the internet was invented for.

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SergeAx wrote: post #472

I now have better understanding of that guy from Google, who wanted to free the AI model, thinking it's alive. By the way, after several hours of chatting with GPT it becomes extremely annoying to carefully fiddle with Google search request wording to obtain the exact result I need. "Why doesn't it just understand my request and give me the answer I want?!"

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