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Post by swader999 »

bitwzrd wrote: post #414
dymk wrote: post #311

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If only iPhones had a way to turn off its cellular radio, some kind of “airplane mode” or something

Why should we possibly believe that any software switches actually fully disable anything? If there isn't a hardware killswitch, there is no reasonable expectation that the cellular radio is actually disabled... There are trustworthy sources claiming that the NSA still tracks devices that are completely "powered off". No reason to believe that the CCP doesn't have that ability as well.

It's pretty easy to test this with a meter. I don't get any emf with my Samsung or my MacBook when I'm in those modes.

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Post by simion314 »

Terretta wrote: post #393
dymk wrote: post #314

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Are you just guessing or do you actually have a reason to believe this?

Commuting in NYC on Subway. My wife's phone is actually "Heather's iPhone" and it happened any time she accidentally left "Everyone" after e.g. a conference. While she's more amused than offended, she thinks it's a good idea this promiscuous mode will now turn itself back off if she forgets.

Do you think your wife could handle one extra option that is not the default where some users could change the 10 minutes to 1 or more hours? Or is that too many options for the average users?

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Post by shagie »

xvector wrote: post #86
falcolas wrote: post #69

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Google builds phones at Foxconn too. Google has also worked on many projects in order to appeal to China's government as well.

Google doesn’t position themselves as some savior of mankind and human rights. They don’t market grandiose claims about privacy and ethics like Apple does. I’m a bit more okay with Google because at least they aren’t lying through their teeth and hoping their customers are dumb enough to believe them.

> Google doesn’t position themselves as some savior of mankind and human rights.

Prior to 2018, Google's code of conduct was summarized with the phrase "don't be evil."

(edit) They appear to have taken some flack on that and you can find it in their investor code of conduct again: https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/

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Post by noncoml »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #507
noncoml wrote: post #477

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But it wasn’t until today that Musk decide to start a propaganda war against Apple.

It wasn't until Apple (apparently) threatened to withdraw Twitter from the app store.

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Post by billti »

shepherdjerred wrote: post #309
virtualritz wrote: post #273

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If you want run an unsigned installer you just right click in Finder and select 'Open' instead of double clicking. I'm not aware of any Mac user among my friends who isn't aware of this. Most OSS installers but even many commerical ones aren't code signed because devs don't want to pay the Apple tax.

> I'm not aware of any Mac user among my friends who isn't aware of this. I don't think any of my non-tech friends would know this.

I think that's the point though. Our non-tech friends are exactly the people who shouldn't be downloading and installing random (unsigned) binaries.

As much as I love to hack and tinker with my OS, I also appreciate the safety inherent in the Apple ecosystem. That's why even as a life-long Windows user, I bought my Dad an iPad - I know the chance of him getting p0wned via some social engineering attack and having his banking password stolen are a lot lower than with a Windows or Android tablet.

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Post by ilyt »

jsnell wrote: post #8

This seems to have been announced a couple of weeks ago, so we don't need to just trust the tweet: https://www.macworld.com/article/1377200/apple-to-limit-aird... Having it open to everyone for only a limited amount of time actually kind of seems like the right thing, but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

A setting with 10 minutes default would be reasonable change for users sake, in case they forget to turn it off.

Force 10 minutes with no optoon to turn it back? Yeah...

> but it's hard to come up with a legit explanation for why they rushed that change to China first.

The China told them to and they complied. They have every interest in China's government keeping their people in check so the Apple factory production continues without problems.

Follow the money and all that

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Post by lovvtide »

akvadrako wrote: post #472
lovvtide wrote: post #412

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I would add: - The ability to send push notifications without replying on GCM/APN - Support for mesh networking (multiple low power peer connections) - Convenient "lockdown" mode that encrypts your phone's contents for international travel - Included hardware wallet/keystore for signing all data that you upload to social media

Push is already possible with https://unifiedpush.org/ . Apps use a local API and you choose the push provider.

This would be awesome if it worked on iOS too

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Post by ilyt »

latexr wrote: post #445
anon400232 wrote: post #397

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Bowing to censorship? Bowing isn't necessarily done happily. Or maybe more ideas are also in play? Perhaps recognizing the existing power dynamics? Perhaps playing the game over a longer time frame? Not all ethicists recommend "dying on your sword" so to speak. Sometimes it is useful to maintain influence and fight another day. These things are far from simple. If you want Apple to push back on censorship in China, l…

Remember how Tim Cook’s Apple handled HKmap.live¹, Telegram², and the Navalny app³. Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. The richest company in the world has at the helm a person who quotes Martin Luther King Jr on the importance of doing something for others⁴ yet he always kowtows to authoritarian regimes. He’s in a stronger position than most people in the world to make a stand but he never d…

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Post by mcculley »

expensive_news wrote: post #321
wonnage wrote: post #172

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I legitimately don't understand how this has been spun into some sort of pro-censorship move. Leaving your phone open to getting AirDrop-ed by anyone in the vicinity just seems like a terrible idea in general, but especially in China. Apple is helping the authoritarian dictatorship by checks notes not having your phone advertise to everyone nearby that it can receive files from anyone? The ability for dissidents to a…

I agree with all of your points. To me this seems like correcting an oversight in Apple’s original implementation vs Apple taking away a ‘feature’. I’ve gotten AirDrop spam here in America and welcome this change.

I have always had mine set to “Everyone”. I have been amused by some of the files (photos, mostly) I have received. I hope I continue to have the option to leave it open.

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Post by pmarreck »

latexr wrote: post #445
anon400232 wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bowing to censorship? Bowing isn't necessarily done happily. Or maybe more ideas are also in play? Perhaps recognizing the existing power dynamics? Perhaps playing the game over a longer time frame? Not all ethicists recommend "dying on your sword" so to speak. Sometimes it is useful to maintain influence and fight another day. These things are far from simple. If you want Apple to push back on censorship in China, l…

Remember how Tim Cook’s Apple handled HKmap.live¹, Telegram², and the Navalny app³. Maybe you shouldn’t fight every battle, but he fights none. The richest company in the world has at the helm a person who quotes Martin Luther King Jr on the importance of doing something for others⁴ yet he always kowtows to authoritarian regimes. He’s in a stronger position than most people in the world to make a stand but he never d…

You know what? You've made a good point, and I'm now a little less positive on Apple and a little more critical of Spineless Tim Cook.
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