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Post by Melatonic »

RajT88 wrote: post #258
pjc50 wrote: post #228

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https://www.thecut.com/2022/02/kanye-west-bipolar-disorder.h... : "He has famously referred to bipolar disorder as his “superpower,”" This is key to understanding bipolar: it has an "upswing" phase in which someone has more energy and less inhibition. Increased self-belief as well. It can, if you're lucky, be just the right thing to catapult someone into incredible creative works. The risk is that risk-taking may not…

I used to know a lady with Bipolar. She thought the highs were totally worth it, and she was self-aware enough when she was swinging into a low period, and she'd just isolate herself until she came out of it. She didn't like her medication because it dulled the highs. After a few major life disasters (including getting married, and then having it annulled), she eventually figured out that the highs were fun but dange…

Hopefully some day we can figure out a solution that can help brunt the lows without completely brunting the highs. Although people do dumb stuff on the high swing too.

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Post by coffeeblack »

mrtksn wrote: post #11

Musk and everyone else is right that we do need a platform with free speech. The only problem is that all those free speech advocates are actually NIMBY's when it comes to free speech. I have been following self proclaimed free speech absolutists(because I too, believe in free speech but don't believe it exists) and they are totally not the kind of people that say "I hate what you say but I will die defending your ri…

> but it contains so much toxicity

Easy. Allow all legal speech, but make it very easy for each individual user to block what they don’t want to see.

Maybe even allow external providers to offer filters. Like an App Store but for content filters.

Let each individual decide how much and what kind of censorship they want.

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Post by klyrs »

OrvalWintermute wrote: post #479
evgen wrote: post #130

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He has also become quite tight with Candace Owens recently. She has been publicly supporting his persecution complex and appeared with him in the White Lives Matter t-shirt incident at the Paris Fashion Week event. I will give you two guesses who the CEO of Parler is married to...

> She has been publicly supporting his persecution complex Ok. > A Twitter rep told The Post on Sunday afternoon that West’s account “has been locked due to a violation of Twitter’s policies.” > JP Morgan Chase may have notified West of its decision to end its banking relationship with him > In a statement to CNN Business on Saturday, a Meta spokesperson said content from West’s account was deleted for violating the…

Dude's been blasting antisemitism on social media, in violation of long-standing, well-understood policies. Shutting down his accounts is the opposite of persecution.

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Post by iso1631 »

bambax wrote: post #271
itake wrote: post #252

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> the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time Slim Shady stands up [0]. [0] - https://iamyourtargetdemographic.com/2011/08/30/kanye-west-v...

This article is from 2011, but today on Spotify Eminem still has more monthly listeners than Kanye West (53M vs 51M). Eminem also has several songs that have over a billion streams (one with >1.5b), while Kanye has just one and it's at exactly 1b. So yes, Eminem is still well ahead.

arguably the top. Probably no doubt he's in the top 5, which doesn't make any difference to the fundamental point.

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AlwaysRock wrote: post #213
tptacek wrote: post #117

This is really a story about a celebrity's mental illness and public breakdown. If you haven't been following the news, West has spent the week saying increasingly unhinged things, not just about politics but about Pete Davidson, his wife, and (if I'm remembering right) his kids and the fake actor children that have been installed in his former home to corrupt them. He was interviewed for a show on Fox and a big chun…

It's sad because to become successful Kanye had to ignore hundreds/thousands of important people telling him he wasnt good enough and he would never make it as a rapper. Then he became, arguably, the most popular rapper/hip hop artist of all time. Now image you've done what seems impossible despite countless people telling you it wont work out. You are in the top 1% of fame. Now someone tells you your other ideas are…

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Post by paulmd »

runlevel1 wrote: post #439
taylodl wrote: post #160

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and these Parler people are scamming him - that's an interesting point I hadn't thought of. My first thought on hearing this news was so what? I don't care about Parler or Kanye West, but if Parler is taking advantage of Kanye's mental decline then that's next-level awful. Like I said, I'm no fan of Kanye, but that's horrible to take advantage of people like that.

I think everywhere requires "capacity" to enter a contract, and Delaware does have this on the books: > 6 DE Code § 2705 (2019): Any person who has attained 18 years of age shall have full capacity to contract; provided such person has not been declared legally incompetent to contract for reasons other than age. Any person who has attained the age of 18 years shall become fully responsible for that person’s own contr…

That's like, if you're committed to an institution, or have a conservator placed over you.

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Post by klyrs »

etchalon wrote: post #503
P0l83q4p1Hw3Ul wrote: post #342

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An app with millions of users, that everyone in this thread knows about, is worth $0?

If it doesn't make money today, and does not any path to profitability, yes.

Looks like they're about to get a chunk of Ye's cash, so it's worth more than zero until the transaction closes.

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Post by themitigating »

kixiQu wrote: post #255
themitigating wrote: post #217

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How does this prevent the issue? You can say horrible things on smaller forums as well

People are not necessarily all on the same side of defining "the issue", FWIW.

The parent said this

"How about we just go back to not using one big central social communication platform and go back to the spirit of using separate independently owned forums, chatrooms and websites for our little niches and communities to prevent this issue"

Regardless of what the issue is how would being on a smaller forum prevent this?

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Post by Aloha »

dcow wrote: post #207
Aloha wrote: post #138

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Absolute free speech and anonymity is a toxic combination. Free speech in the way it was envisaged in the constitution presumes there is a feedback loop back to the emitter of the speech. Anonymity breaks that feedback loop. Anyone who tells you that free speech without consequences has ever existed pretty much anywhere is lying to themselves and to you. If you want anonymity you need some measure of bounds on speech…

Exactly. Personally I’d rather see more of internet communities/products regulating access to anonymity. This opinion is intensely unpopular around here, but IMO it addresses the root cause. The internet made it instantly easy and cheap to have multiple identities. Don’t get me wrong, we still need that tool in a modern human’s toolset, but it shouldn’t be cheap and easy to generate low value spam. Imagine if Twitter…

Community reputation (mostly) works the same as a lack of anonymity, it means your actions are tied to your account (in re twitter) and some extent to your pseudonym.

I'm a furry, furry is a community built around an isolation between our IRL identity and our online one. But the community is tight knit enough that your reputation will follow you around - the identity you created for yourself yes - but still your identity, and if you're too far out of bounds, you get quietly (or loudly) excluded from the mainstream of the community. It largely functions the same way as tying your real name to every online identity.

Now take something like twitter - you start with a karma of say 75, anything less than 100 karma, and your tweets wont show up in searches, anything less than 50 and you start to disappear from timeline - even for followers, anything less than 30, you disappear from lists - effectively this creates an automatic shadow banning system.

But a saving grace, you earn a quarter point of karma just by not having any negative interactions on the site, you could also earn positive karma by upvotes on content.

You could also put some other bounds in there too, like limiting how much positive karma or negative karma a single post could earn, to prevent it from skewing the numbers too much (it should be based on a weighted average of interactions, not just on one tweet that goes viral and the rest of it is low effort shitposting).

Ideally you'd have a cross site 'identity' service that would also carry along a weighted karma score from all of the places you interact, and allow people to see those links - you're still abstracted from your real identity, and you're always welcome to start over again, abandon your account and start from zero, but there is persistent history of your interactions.

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