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In 2016, after a few years with bitcoin as my main obsession, I did something similar. Blocked bitcointalk.com at my router and on my phone using an Adblock program. Took me a few months to lose the urge to look at the drama/bs happening on that site and forget about "crypto." So glad I did.

Re: I'm an addict

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Got anything more specific to recommend? I'd like to read the main books of the main religions eventually out of personal culture, but they won't get to the top of the reading pile any time soon. Meanwhile, I'm sure procrastination, motivation and discipline are behaviors that religious scholars had to develop even in a pre-Internet world so I'm sure there are interesting takes written on the subject. I recall some r…

The ancient Christian monks battled against procrastination, lack of motivation, etc.... they called it "Acedia" aka "The noon-day devil"... Apparently the monks felt a huge urge just to sleep, rest and abandon their study around midday... it was a fairly well recognised psycho-spiritual problem in the middle ages for some monastic orders...

Thanks a lot for the terminology, looking at Google's first page for "Christian monk procrastination" I'm not sure I would've found it if I even looked for it.

They're interesting inputs for Marginalia's search engine FWIW.

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I dont like the idea of replacing the time spend compulsively procrastinating with "learning a new language, getting a pet, going to the gym" is the right way. I see the root cause (for me atleast (used to read HN and blogs for 4 hours everyday)) is that i cant stand being with myself. During the last two months ive been trying to not panic when i'm idle. And not take out my phone or read the nearest material i can l…

They're just cliche ideas for how to fill the time. Anyone one who tries to break an addiction suddenly finds themselves with a lot of free time they don't know how to fill. But on that note, have multiple kids AND get a pet. You'll never have a free minute again.

Or multiple pets and no kids, got 2 labs, a cat, a fish, and a cockatiel--its never boring at my house.

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post #39

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Got anything more specific to recommend? I'd like to read the main books of the main religions eventually out of personal culture, but they won't get to the top of the reading pile any time soon. Meanwhile, I'm sure procrastination, motivation and discipline are behaviors that religious scholars had to develop even in a pre-Internet world so I'm sure there are interesting takes written on the subject. I recall some r…

Check out this essay https://renovare.org/articles/self-denial-without-self-hatre...

Whereas self-indulgence is procrastination and self-denial is altruism & giving yourself (time and what not) to others?

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No amount of dogpiling will convince me taking amphetamines on a daily basis is good for you, ADHD or not. The mind is not the only thing being affected here. This shit is horrible for the body. Aren't there herbs that can help? Do doctors even care?

Well, good thing you don’t need to be convinced for other people to get help. Sheesh. My partners life was literally changed by taking medication. Do you think that’s a bad thing? I strongly doubt that ‘herbs’ are more effective than decades of scientific research. I presume that you’re hearing amphetamines and thinking of the extremes; as the parent said, the medical doses are far lower than that of recreational use…

Good thing I am not trying to stop anyone, nor arguing against there being some benefits to seeking treatment.

I've noticed this is mainly a US thing. If you all think it's great, there must be something to it. Like a big marketing campaign going back years. Nope, too wild! It's more probable I need a lecture on the benefits of being hooked on amphetamines in the name of mental health.

How long do you think such treatment can last? Have you checked? Do it for your partner. Do you honestly think using this stuff for decades does not come with major drawbacks?

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I mean from a purely evolutionary perspective, the point of life is to pass on your genes to your offspring, so having kids would be winning at this game we call life…

so life’s greatest winner is genghis khan

Do you have an alternative "point of life"?

Is it career? If so, that's pretty depressing. Happiness is a superficial emotion. If your loved one was "happy" spending his entire life playing fortnight in his parent's basement, would you be sad for him? Charity?

I don't know. Never found a meaning as compelling as having children.

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Well, good thing you don’t need to be convinced for other people to get help. Sheesh. My partners life was literally changed by taking medication. Do you think that’s a bad thing? I strongly doubt that ‘herbs’ are more effective than decades of scientific research. I presume that you’re hearing amphetamines and thinking of the extremes; as the parent said, the medical doses are far lower than that of recreational use…

Good thing I am not trying to stop anyone, nor arguing against there being some benefits to seeking treatment. I've noticed this is mainly a US thing. If you all think it's great, there must be something to it. Like a big marketing campaign going back years. Nope, too wild! It's more probable I need a lecture on the benefits of being hooked on amphetamines in the name of mental health. How long do you think such trea…

"How long do you think such treatment can last? Have you checked? Do it for your partner. Do you honestly think using this stuff for decades does not come with major drawbacks?"

I know people who have been on ADHD medication for 30 years. I'm assuming the people I know aren't the only ones. So do you have any evidence that these treatments can't last, or are you just making things up?

Edit: Also one of them has a doctorate and it would have been impossible for him to obtain it without medication.

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Well, good thing you don’t need to be convinced for other people to get help. Sheesh. My partners life was literally changed by taking medication. Do you think that’s a bad thing? I strongly doubt that ‘herbs’ are more effective than decades of scientific research. I presume that you’re hearing amphetamines and thinking of the extremes; as the parent said, the medical doses are far lower than that of recreational use…

Good thing I am not trying to stop anyone, nor arguing against there being some benefits to seeking treatment. I've noticed this is mainly a US thing. If you all think it's great, there must be something to it. Like a big marketing campaign going back years. Nope, too wild! It's more probable I need a lecture on the benefits of being hooked on amphetamines in the name of mental health. How long do you think such trea…

Not op but for me - and I think for many others - it's really a worthwhile tradeoff.

To say life with mental illness/disorders comes with its own major drawbacks is really an understatement. Amphetamines may well have harmful effects, but untreated mental illness/disorders can cause an incredible amount of damage, not just to the person affected but to those around them.

Many people, such as myself, seek treatment with medication after they've exhausted all other known options. There's only so long you can keep running on empty. I'm just happy to have something that works.

Re: I'm an addict

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post #517

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so life’s greatest winner is genghis khan

Do you have an alternative "point of life"? Is it career? If so, that's pretty depressing. Happiness is a superficial emotion. If your loved one was "happy" spending his entire life playing fortnight in his parent's basement, would you be sad for him? Charity? I don't know. Never found a meaning as compelling as having children.

what a bizarre reaction to my comment
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