Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…
> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.
Teen mental health is plummeting and social media is a major contributing cause [pdf]
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#512Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…
I'll add one more that IMHO is huge: Youth culture seems dead. I remember being a teen and early-20 in the 90s-2000s and there were things like a hippie festival circuit, raves, goth culture, club culture, and so on. I keep hoping I'm just old and don't see it, but I remember back then it would seep out and get covered by the media and get chatted about on the nascent Internet. I see nothing like it today. Sure there…
The above is further amplified by communication between children and adult strangers being seen as a big no-no.
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#513Earlier quoted context omitted.
Idk but in France, when I was still a teenager, it was not that uncommon to talk/joke about the fact that we will never be able to retire. In high school, most of my classmate already started to have a political conscience and where thinking about this kind of stuff. Same with the environment. We already had social media at the time (mostly facebook) and yes, I won't deny that there was already something anxious abou…
> Idk but in France, when I was still a teenager, it was not that uncommon to talk/joke about the fact that we will never be able to retire. UK here, 42 years not dead, and my pension plan in my 20s as I started work after University, and most of my 30s too, was to not live long enough to need a pension¹. I don't think it was anything I thought about at all as a teenager though, nor that teens (or very early 20s) tod…
Man did footnote [1] make me laugh. I feel like I have not invested enough in that asset class. It's a bittersweet laughter, for various reasons, but still. Thanks for that.
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#514Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Diversity is good, but being ____ is bad. Can you fill in the blank? I actually have no idea what you are referring to here.
any term taken from the 50% of diversity can fill that blank. i think they are referring to the cancellous but ostensibly tolerant culture
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#515I've used per-Internet BBS, IRC, bulletin boards and I feel the difference in social media. The closest I can come is chat rooms in games where there is a mix of anonymity, comradeship, contempt, bullying but all by people there to game. Social media mixes people who normally would not associate all in the same space. Whether it's young and old or left vs right, religious or not.
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#516Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Perhaps it's social media that makes that they are either too aware of it or simply mention it more often. Or rather, they see how historically threats were dealt with: lead was banned, CFCs were banned, sulphur in fuel was banned - in short, environmental threats were met with decisive action. And then they see how scientists have warned for decades now about climate change and they can clearly see that nothing ha…
Perhaps the threats that were met with decisive action were better understood. What decisive actions should be taken in this case?
- impose a maximum limit on size, weight and fuel consumption of cars, ban SUVs and pickup trucks (and no, a tax won't work because the rich will simply buy their "freedom"). Exceptions only upon proof of need (e.g. commercial or farming usage).
- ban all inner-country flights of less than 2 hours duration (this one is not that applicable to the US but more towards Europe)
- improve passenger high speed rail networks in accessibility, affordability and speed
- improve (or, in some places, create) usable public transport systems to reduce the need for cars
- entirely ban naval cruise ships unless fueled by renewable fuel
- construct immense amounts of solar and wind electricity generation, invest into storage mechanisms and power-to-gas
- impose bans or limitations on concrete for construction (8% of global CO2 emissions result out of the manufacturing of concrete!)
- ban "fast fashion", impose durability requirements on clothing
- force all manufacturers to provide spare parts, 3D designs and tooling needed for repairs, no matter what kind of thing
- impose per-capita meat consumption quotas. Yes, this is communism-style, but we cannot sustainably continue with mass animal farming at the scale we are at.
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#517My entirely anecdotal impression as a high school teacher is that media (in general, often but not always “social” media) is doing an exceptional job of sucking up teenagers’ every waking moment that is not actively demanded to be focused on something else. It’s pleasure without joy. Ennui without boredom. Their social skills (and social interest) appear markedly reduced even compared to even five years ago. So many…
And in school kids "using their phones" for work in class, but really, just using their phones. So I can't even lock it down during class time. Sigh.
Luckily the second child (pre-teen boy) shows no interest in phones or social media. Just video games. All. Day. Long.
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#518Social media definitely amplifies it, but consider the economic and social environment that teenagers have lived through their entire lives. Multiple major recessions, a global pandemic, rising inflation, housing and education getting more expensive by the day, prospect of a mountain of debt right after graduation, climate that will be unlivable in a few decades, political extremism becoming the norm, and massive gov…
>>a mountain of debt right after graduation Average debt upon graduation is approx. $31K, less than the cost of a mid-grade car. I would not call that 'a mountain', and unlike a car which will rapidly depreciate in a very short amount of time, getting a decent college degree will pay dividends throughout your life in increased earnings power. According to govt estimates, the average lifetime earnings difference betwe…
If you think a car rapidly depreciates, try reselling your degree. You might be in for a shock.
Winner: The car.
> getting a decent college degree will pay dividends throughout your life in increased earnings power.
The data says otherwise. Wages have held stagnant through the rise of post-secondary schooling. You can't both have increased earning power and stagnant earning power.
The earning power of not being limited to a physically close job that a car affords did show some upward wage movement, however. There was clear wage growth seen during the rise of the automobile.
Winner: The car.
> According to govt estimates, the average lifetime earnings difference between someone with just a high-school diploma, and someone with a college degree is - on average $550,000.
Ouch. The opportunity cost of a four year degree is, on average, more than a million dollars. That's a nasty haircut.
And that's ignoring that your methodology is flawed. We know that different people are different. Of course the person with down syndrome, who just scraped by in high school and struggles in the workplace for the same reason, is going to have lower earning potential than the person who breezed through their studies at Stanford. These people are not comparable.
Which is why you actually want to compare people over time. Using a time vector maintains the spectrum of people from high functioning to low functioning. Over time, as more and more have attained degrees, incomes have held stagnant. There has actually been no economic benefit gained.
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#519Unpopular opinion: Social media is a great scapegoat, but it is not the source of the problem. It is where they go to communicate and cope. My sole qualification to post this: I have four kids that are either teens or in their early 20s, and one who will be a teen next year. Here is what I see out there: 1. Kids have little or no slack in their schedule. This means very little freedom, and very little time to work th…
I'll add one more that IMHO is huge: Youth culture seems dead. I remember being a teen and early-20 in the 90s-2000s and there were things like a hippie festival circuit, raves, goth culture, club culture, and so on. I keep hoping I'm just old and don't see it, but I remember back then it would seep out and get covered by the media and get chatted about on the nascent Internet. I see nothing like it today. Sure there…
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#520That said, I'd submit that what social media on the phone is for girls... video games are for boys. All encompassing, immersive, 24/7 focus stealer.
And Zuckerberg wants to make this markedly worse on both fronts.
We need a 'Butlerian Jihad' against this crap. And I say this as a person who came of Internet-age spending all my waking hours on MUDs & MOOs in the 90s. We need to resist the "metaverse" (the commercial weaponization of the "virtual") with all our strength.