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Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by mosselman »

panick21_ wrote: post #465
Lamad123 wrote: post #447

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He calls himself of founder of some things he never founded!

People are so obsessed with that detail. Elon and JB wanted to start their own company and they had the money. Tesla had no money and was going nowhere without Musk. Instead of creating his own company he agree to join forces and basically fund Tesla. Seems like not just starting a competitor was the nice thing to do. As doing so would have 100% doomed Tesla.

I don't care either way. Nor about Tesla, nor about Musk. Calling yourself a founder when you aren't, regardless of the merits of him funding Tesla, is still very odd.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by and0 »

ryanSrich wrote: post #442

It would be cool to see Twitter unban the thousands of accounts I used to follow. I highly doubt Musk will have or is interested in having any real influence.

I'd be curious to see examples of these. I only know of Trump as having been banned. Plus I guess people who commit shootings tend to get memory holed by all the major social media brands, which might be a good idea? Thousands that you followed is quite an allegation.

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Post by temp8964 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #479
rayiner wrote: post #420

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Everyone is political. But “woke” people are like the old Christian right. They’re willing to use their control of institutions to prosthelytize their ideology in a way that ordinary liberals or conservatives aren’t.

Conservative states are literally passing laws banning the teaching of radical ideas like "gay people exist". If that's not "prosthelytizing their ideology", I don't know what is.

Reddit is not a good place to get informed.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by mosselman »

marban wrote: post #86

The expensive way to get yourself an edit button for tweets.

He has $260 billion and spent $2 billion to buy himself into one of the biggest communication platforms ever.

Some people have about $260.00 in their name and spend $6 at Starbucks on some caramel coffee.

Re: Elon Musk to join Twitter’s board of directors

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Post by bradchris »

BurningFrog wrote: post #508
thebradbain wrote: post #348

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His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? Also- weird take that both of your examples seem to focus on one specific genre of role. I’ve dealt with many more useless software engineering and product managers on a day-to-day basis than HR-types, who are there if you want/need to contact them or in the background if you don’t. Maybe Musk would benefit from them, actually …especially considering Tesla…

> His companies compensate engineers below market, does he not? If that's true, those engineers would leave for better jobs. If you think like an economist, the fact that his engineering departments remain fully staffed shows they're paid enough. I'll take that as fact over angry internet rumors about a controversial billionaire.

https://www.levels.fyi/company/Tesla/salaries/

I mean, based on the objective aggregate information we have available, they pay much less than FAANGs.

I said nothing about Tesla not being able to keep a staff due to low pay – just that I do not see any indication they are paid "well" compared to what other companies pay.

If I worked at Twitter, I would be worried my salary would be frozen and pay/promotion scales re-adjusted.

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Post by pb7 »

colinmhayes wrote: post #349
hindsightbias wrote: post #332

People hate Musk for the same reason they hated Jobs. They love living in their world but hate themselves for it. Think Different might have more than one meaning.

Or because he calls people who disagree with him pedophiles?

Since it happens so often, please provide two instances of this.

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Post by joering2 »

panick21_ wrote: post #465
Lamad123 wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He calls himself of founder of some things he never founded!

People are so obsessed with that detail. Elon and JB wanted to start their own company and they had the money. Tesla had no money and was going nowhere without Musk. Instead of creating his own company he agree to join forces and basically fund Tesla. Seems like not just starting a competitor was the nice thing to do. As doing so would have 100% doomed Tesla.

I don't think the OP was referring to Tesla since technically they are a car company, not a "tech" company, but still you can find interviews with real founders of Tesla who stated on record they don't understand why Elon calls himself a "Tesla founder", but since they took his money, he is their boss (or was).

I think he was referring to PayPal, a tech company. Even now all over the net you can see articles claiming Musk founded Paypal. Nothing further from the truth. Musk started X.com and designed a very simple page where you put two peoples email addresses and you "could" send them money. It was happening at the same time as PayPal had the same idea and similar website. Problem for PP was that back then no sane bank or financial institution would touch any company that is hooked up to the internet. Musk had a tremendous leverage because of the only bank who would go ahead and plug their gateway into the net (I believe it was Stanford Federal Credit Union, but I don't remember) was okay for doing it because personal leverage of Musk father, who owns multiple diamond mines in ZA, and put a huge collateral "just in case" something goes wrong. Musk didn't have to have a working website to have a $300,000,000 leverage over PayPal and PP knew it will be years before they get any bank to agree to work with them. It was smart for Thiel to offer large stake of PP for Musk just for ability to change which site will be using the bank's gateway. This story was somewhat easy to find and popular back in the old days of the internet, but - putting my conspiracy hat on - these days you find nothing about it at least not by Googling. So I don't really know - to me it doesn't sound he founded PayPal, they would eventually got their permission from some bank but at that point we would be X'ing each other money, not "Paypalling" it.

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Post by freemint »

mostertoaster wrote: post #262
lolwowthere wrote: post #215

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You wrote in Kanye West for president, thought enough other voters would join you to make doing so worth anything to you and your vote, and share that extremely poor adult judgment confidently and publicly? You like him because he says shit? I mean I say shit, too, would you vote for me even if my entire policy platform was incoherent and I stalk and abuse my exes and their new partners in public? You realize his ent…

Kanye 2024. :) Seriously though this is my point. Kanye is absurd. A fool you might say. Like Trump and Bernie. Yet if you live in an upside down world, you might say some obvious truth, and it will further make you like a fool. I like that back in 04 he was talking about the way blacks are treated in America, before all the woke fools decided it was popular. And Beyonces video was better than Taylor’s. The funny par…

Why is Bernie absurd? His policy positions are pretty standard in the conext of European Democracies.

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Post by orblivion »

freedomben wrote: post #104
cloutchaser wrote: post #70

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Is Elon a Republican or Conservative? I've seen variations of this regarding balancing ownership and improving free speech, but aside from a few cryptic tweets about cancel culture, has Elon ever said anything? In interviews (especially the famous Rogan interview) he seems pretty disinterested in politics.

I think he's even claimed to be some variant of anarchist. Not that I take that specifically to heart. I just think he's politically eccentric.

Though to the "conservative" or maybe libertarian angle don't forget the "coronavirus panic is dumb" tweet.

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Post by sytelus »

andrew_ wrote: post #52
JamesAdir wrote: post #9

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Elon is his one of his new bosses, I would take anything the CEO says with a grain of salt.

I give his tenure as CEO 6 months at most before he's forced out by the board, or resigns for ideological differences. The changing wind that Elon is going to usher in is going to be fundamental and sweeping, and I wouldn't be surprised to see an exodus of employees follow.

Why do you think he can do that as just one member of the whole board?
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