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IBM is famous for charging people for the privilege of talking to them, even if you're trying to sell them something. This strategy makes sense if you consider that even in it's heyday Watson was 95% data science consulting firm and 5% actual valuable technology. I really think Watson is one of the biggest tech marketing bamboozles of the 21st century. Through Jeopardy they really had a segment of the business world…

Deep Blue preceded this. They had specialty equipment for crunching chess moves. Really excellent hype machine. I liked the documentary about it: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0379296/

Was Deep Blue/Watson basically the starting point of AI/ML, or had that already been happening earlier or concurrently?

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The company I worked for used some Oracle tech and I was trying to get some high level information about a product but their website kept requesting my e-mail just to show me some documentation. Once I provided them with my e-mail, I started receiving "You must take us to your leader" messages in a tone as if I was their employee and they were commanding me to take them to my CEO. I can't imagine myself chasing the C…

Funny, similar thing happened to me. IBM along a few other behemots pitched for a serious project at a company I worked for as enterprise arch. All companies brought their top salespeople, and all tried nasty things, but IBM was by far the worst. Their top guy started their pitch by saying he chatted with our CEO over the christmas holidays. He mentioned - and I am not making this up - that he should be talking to pe…

Yup - I had the same "your guy is a problem, he's anti-innovation." The brilliant thing was that they rang the CEO of the business unit who was at that time +4 on me and had never met me. He was flummoxed and invited me for lunch to find out how I'd made such a big impression! Did me loads of good!

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Many people think palantir cracked AI. While they are just using tensorflow and other things like anyone else. Additionally, large tech can't apply for defense contracts because of internal ethical concerns of employees. So the naritive remains.

Who thinks that? I've never heard this. People thought Watson was a lot more capable than it actually was just because of the Jeopardy PR stunt. People outside tech were buzzing about IBM and Watson. In my experience, people outside tech barely know Palantir exists.

A lot of retailers buying their stocks and blindly following people like Cathy Woods and random YouTubers.

Not me, but i see some guys trying to spread that naritive.

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20% https://www.cms.gov/Research-Statistics-Data-and-Systems/Sta... .

Absolutely bonkers. One of every five dollars goes to healthcare. To put this further into perspective: the US military budget is immense, as we know… and it clocks in at 3.7% of GDP [1] [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/266892/military-expendit...

To put it even further into perspective, that's 2x as much as comparable western nations with single-payer, who have similar or better outcomes in most cases.

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I don't know but my manager was a non-technical guy with passion for fashion and even his shirts weren't as nice!

Unfortunately, still don't know what you're talking about. Probably because I don't have expertise in the area. Am imaging some kind of white-collar business shirt that's... platinum plated? If the design is not extravagant, how would anyone know?

These are the best ones I've ever worn : https://turnbullandasser.co.uk/products/white-west-indian-se...

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The company I worked for used some Oracle tech and I was trying to get some high level information about a product but their website kept requesting my e-mail just to show me some documentation. Once I provided them with my e-mail, I started receiving "You must take us to your leader" messages in a tone as if I was their employee and they were commanding me to take them to my CEO. I can't imagine myself chasing the C…

Funny, similar thing happened to me. IBM along a few other behemots pitched for a serious project at a company I worked for as enterprise arch. All companies brought their top salespeople, and all tried nasty things, but IBM was by far the worst. Their top guy started their pitch by saying he chatted with our CEO over the christmas holidays. He mentioned - and I am not making this up - that he should be talking to pe…

It sure sounds like IBM were bad. But it sounds like your company was even worse, the way your bosses' boss behaved.

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It’s promoted as a complete system, but you end up paying them to build out the system to do whatever you wanted to do.

IBM, Oracle, Panatir....in a lot of cases these are pro services companies that custom build whatever is needed. LOTS of money in enterprise application development.

Oracle is a expensive and "popular" database, IBM does many things ( eg. Quantum computers, ... )

Palantir is a consultancy body shop with a dashboard product and a probably good pipeline for merging data. ( Reference - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11646587 )

Pure consultancy is rated much lower ( eg. Thoughtworks if you want a reference)

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They are a nightmare. I was part of a huge project to replace a large part of a telecom operators infrastructure. IBM global services ran the operators IT outsourced. The project failed after a year because of them. It was the 3rd such project to fail. The company in question couldn’t bring themselves to realise it had been their outsourced operators fault once again. Even though they had again lost the bid to do sai…

I once went to a job interview at Accenture. I remember the recruiter told me they only considered me because I went to a prestigious university. When I got there, they practically IQ tested me, were rude to me, and never contacted me again even after they said they would. The job was to write GUIs in C#. Listen up Accenture, I will drink expensive champagne when you go bust, or get bought.

Not getting contacted again was probably a blessing in disguise. They don't really do much, but kind of act like PMs, but aren't very effective as they don't know the business very well. I think they're generally only used when a company temporarily needs like 20 warm bodies to assist with a large project.
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