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Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by sweetbitter »

tediousdemise wrote: post #492
smaryjerry wrote: post #423

Removing the dislike count is the worst possible thing YouTube could do. Youtube is not just people talking about their day or political content. It is practical content, like how-to videos, and entertainment. When you search how to do something the number one indicator it will be useful or helpful video is the dislikes. This is critical for sifting through all of the garbage videos that don’t work or aren’t related…

I am in support of dislike/downvote buttons being removed across all platforms, for the sole reason that people and groups misuse/abuse them. Legitimate opinions get silenced and squelched by the hivemind, or hidden by propaganda machines such as the JIDF. You can make the same argument that like/upvote buttons also get misused and abused, but the consequences are not the same. You might disagree with this and justif…

Are you aware that dislikes have the same effect as likes on YouTube? Both of them increase exposure- dislikes don't decrease visibility of a video at all, much to the contrary actually.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by TheFreim »

canjobear wrote: post #484

My experience is that lots of dislikes signals a video which is not what it is claimed to be. For example a video that advertises itself as relaxing sleep music and halfway through you suddenly hear a loud voice screaming "AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!"

> relaxing sleep music and halfway through you suddenly hear a loud voice screaming "AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CENA!!!"

You're making it hard for me to be against this change, haha.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by nebula8804 »

trts wrote: post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

I wonder if someone can produce an extension like SponsorBlock to add the functionality back. Surely this must be coming after this announcement.

For people that don't know SponsorBlock is a magical extension that uses crowdsourced data to automatically skip in video advertisements/end title/start tile junk that youtubers tend to do. What an amazing show of the power of software and intuitive thinking.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by eranima »

It's sad to see Hacker News defending vote brigading. If you're like me and watch a lot of history YouTube videos, it's obvious that this is happening. Watch any video on African history and it's plainly obvious that this is a problem.

The ratio was _never_ a good indication of anything other than a video being targeted. If you believe it was, I can only assume that you agree with the targeting.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by globular-toast »

MichaelDickens wrote: post #301
trts wrote: post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

In my experience, if a video has comments disabled, it's probably bad. The lack of signal is itself a signal.

Aren't the channel owners allowed to delete comments? So comments being enabled could mean it's a good video or it could mean the author is removing comments. You can't tell which it is.
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