Reddit’s disrespectful design • Hacker News Board

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by dempsey » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 1:05 AM UTC

l72 wrote: post #182

marcinzm wrote: post #18

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Reddit has pathetic ad revenue per user versus every other social media platform. Part of this is likely due to anonymous users that they lack data on for proper targeting. This is their attempt to "fix" that.

I would think that Reddit would have an advantage here in some ways. As an advertiser, instead of trying to pick interests of a general population, you can just pick specific subreddits. If a store sells geeky/sci-fi clothing and gifts then I found it is way better to just target anyone that visits /r/startrek and some other relevant subreddits. No need to build profiles on users. I found Facebook to be a lot harder…

Or based on a user’s subscribed subreddits.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by soco » Tue, Jun 29, 2021, 11:16 AM UTC

noduerme wrote: post #479

Ozzie_osman wrote: post #466

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Honestly, yes, Quora and Reddit both have some bad patterns around their signup flows (esp mobile). I won't defend those. That said, they are far from the worst offenders. Facebook has done some really shady things around inviting your contacts, recommending people you may know, sharing/exposing your data to other apps, etc. LinkedIn has done some lawsuit-worthy shady things in that area too (e.g. [1]). News sites (a…

As a consumer of posts who wants to occasionally read Quora on my phone's DDG browser, I just no longer bother to click the link. Ditto with Reddit unless I feel like fighting their popups. Logging in or downloading the apps? You've gotta be kidding. Nothing would be a bigger waste of time or storage on my phone. FB is obnoxious in that they only let you view one page w/o logging in, but I never had a FB account so I…

And I thought I was the only one ignoring Quora links.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by raindropm » Sat, Jul 03, 2021, 4:04 AM UTC

There is that barebone, weird and non-pretentious, especially the feeling that "I don't do this for money and growth!!" of old internet that modern corporate-y site cannot replicate (hell, and I'm just 35)

Also, all those too much flairs and awards and stuffs somehow push me out of Reddit instead of bring me in. Maybe it's fun for younger generation though... I knew Reddit just about 5 years ago, and it feels more fun back then...

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by shawnz » Sun, Jul 04, 2021, 3:23 PM UTC

wting wrote: post #207

I was the EM for Reddit's Growth team around this time. I am responsible for / contributed to a few features like the current signup flow, AMP pages, push notifications, email digests, app download interstitials, etc. There was a new product lead who joined with many good ideas, but some of them were dark patterns that I heavily protested. After a few months of this, it was obvious that I was going to be reigned in o…

I don't think it's accurate that "lay-users" prefer the new UI. Perhaps the metrics have improved, but in my experience I have heard nothing but frustration from my non-technical peers when it comes to the new dark patterns which Reddit has been implementing.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by kexx » Mon, Jul 05, 2021, 10:43 PM UTC

wting wrote: post #207

I was the EM for Reddit's Growth team around this time. I am responsible for / contributed to a few features like the current signup flow, AMP pages, push notifications, email digests, app download interstitials, etc. There was a new product lead who joined with many good ideas, but some of them were dark patterns that I heavily protested. After a few months of this, it was obvious that I was going to be reigned in o…

"Yes, power users complain—and still continue using the site" I wonder what would happen after you removed old.reddit.com and api access for reddit apps. For icing on the cake, use creative class names to f*ck with RES and ad blockers. My guess, if you do all of this, reddit's gonna crash on the ground pretty quickly.

Re: Reddit’s disrespectful design

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Post by FeepingCreature » Fri, Jul 09, 2021, 11:57 PM UTC

hhjinks wrote: post #370

demux wrote: post #237

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You say power users complain but the casual user does not (as a result of these features) - this sort of position ruins reddit's community as it suggests that reddit doesn't really care about the members who have contributed all kinds of content over the years and instead favors trying to get new members who are just marginally interested, or worse, just like endlessly scrolling through a timeline. This thread has me…

> and instead favors trying to get new members who are just marginally interested, or worse, just like endlessly scrolling through a timeline You can literally see communities go to shit because of this. Actual content is pushed away as low effort content, easy-to-view-in-a-timeline content, claims the frontpage, because of what you said. It infuriates me to no end when communities I've frequented for years literally…

I liked the proposal that I saw here a while back, that members only see votes of members who joined before they did. So when you join a community, the voting behavior gets "frozen in time".