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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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#511

The solution to bad speech is good speech, not censorship.

True. The banwave will unfortunately encourage even less honest debate, just even more siloing of opinion. Non-political and left wing thoughts stay on Twitter, while right wing thoughts are being forced into increasingly extreme environments.

It's pretty clear that many will soon move to platforms designed to be resilient to moderation.

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post #386

Hypothetically, how would you go about staying online completely independently? Let's say you build your own data center, buy the real estate (because a landlord could be pressured to cancel your lease), purchase all the network equipment, and hire your own full-time employees. You still need to lease an IP block and a fiber connection from a carrier (like AT&T, Century Link, etc.). Couldn't they deplatform you too?…

> Is there any law that says AT&T etc. cannot refuse service?

Literally Trump's appointee for the FCC removed that regulation (it was called net neutrality).

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#513

If people on an app continually call for violence and violate your TOS you can boot them off. Especially if the app in question has no good faith moderation of content to meet your terms of service and their terms of service are either lacking or wink wink levels of enforcement. You can have ANY political perspective you want! Lower taxes, raise taxes, immigration policy, school choice, charter schools WHATEVER! You…

“Hate speech against protected classes”

Do you not see a problem here?

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#514

I'm curious to see how far things have gone. Does anyone here believe that an employer should be able to fire an employee for supporting Trump?

I don't know if they should be able to but in the USA at least can't you fire anyone for any reason as long as they aren't part of a protected class? I don't think there are any laws against political discrimination, are there?

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Everyone saying this is a slippery slope to tech companies regulating speech are being completely ridiculous. https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1348099918381068289 Check the images there. People are literally planning murder on Parler and people are acting as if AWS, Apple, etc should not do anything. Parler REFUSES to remove these posts. I could see if it was something other than murder, or violence but I can't t…

And it would be one thing if Parler started out as a strictly free speech platform. No, they’re solely funded by the very same people who started the fascist movement. As such the whole platform is designed to give cover to this specific group of people.

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post #386

Hypothetically, how would you go about staying online completely independently? Let's say you build your own data center, buy the real estate (because a landlord could be pressured to cancel your lease), purchase all the network equipment, and hire your own full-time employees. You still need to lease an IP block and a fiber connection from a carrier (like AT&T, Century Link, etc.). Couldn't they deplatform you too?…

Build app on some sort of decentralized blockchain ... though it might be a hurdle to get the average person to use it

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#520

>But the essence of man is no abstraction inherent in each single individual. In reality, it is the ensemble of the social relations. We should really fear the very near future in which it's so easy to assasinate a man by simply pushing a button and cut off all of his social relations.

I'm pretty sure there is no button which could cut off all my social relations.
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