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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Apple want to be the closed garden, this will eventually happen. tbh, I'm a huge fan of macs but only really because I use it as a client/screen.

What do you use as the server and what do you run on it?

NAS for my personal stuff, AWS for recurring jobs and some websites.

And of course there's the rest of the internet, which is a large part of my computer time.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

I think it is because a lot of people still believe and repeat old trope which are demonstrably false these days. Despite having the worst keyboard, buying third party apps to have features which most of the other OS in the market provide as standard, more lock down of their OS every year, Apple fans continue to buy them. Appke's powerful marketing, which is full of weasel words, keeps them in their own bubble.

Which third party apps do you mean? And the worst keyboard? I understand it being subjective as a taste, but the worst? Idk...

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

I keep reading in the tweets how all Macs are unusable. Is this an OS bug that doesn't effect older OSes? I'm on Mojave on my 2017 MBP, and have had zero issues at all. When was `trustd` introduced?

I ran into this on trying to load a new video file on VLC, with Mojave, so I guess it's not just apps, but maybe any new file load.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#514

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

I don't think most people are aware that this could happen or even understand what happened and how it was Apple's fault.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Please stop fear mongering. If Apple servers actually go down, there's no issue.

Referring to the USA, this might indeed be leaning towards fear mongering .. on the other hand, for any other country .. the "opportunity" to systemically disrupt Apple computers in that country might now be considered a (diplomatic) soft power (of the USA), from this day forward.

Still, this doesn't follow:

> All of sudden hospitals can't run their computers or communications.

If the scenario is an attack by the USA, there are so many better avenues.

If a country wants to defend from this (assuming they are heavily invested in Apple hardware), they just have to block at their firewalls. Done.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

It's even simpler than people not caring, people don't know.

"I'll do YOU one better." /Drax

I know, and I _want_ this. In general, it effectively eliminates the possibility that I'm going to install malware.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Please stop fear mongering. If Apple servers actually go down, there's no issue.

That is why a smart attacker would not make them go down, instead they'd degrade performance to such an extent that it'd cripple Apple-encumbered products.

At which point Apple would turn the service off.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Note that it's ocsp.apple.com, not oSCp.apple.com.

Blocked both.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

Look up System76

I switched from map to sys76 last year, never looking back at MacBook. I'd also suggest s76, x1 carbon, or Dell xps
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