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McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu
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Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu
#512Can someone help me to understand all of the pessimism surrounding plant-based meat? Of all of the morally-dubious technologies in the world today, this seems like a force of unequivocal good, and yet the criticism is endless: "it's not healthier", "the name sucks", "it'll give you cancer". All of these just seem to be missing the point that it's _no worse than meat_ in most respects, and _way better_ in others (i.e.…
What do you think the endgame is?
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> Vegetable oils are most likely carcinogenic, amid other health issues Strange. Why do I only ever see this claim from esoteric websites and blogs and never from serious organizations? E.g. "No need to avoid healthy omega-6 fats"[1] [1] https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/no-need-to...
In fairness to the esoteric websites, the official guidelines for the US have been high-carb and low-fat for what 40 years? And the health outcomes in the US during that 40 years haven't been great. I've heard the phrase "epidemic of obesity" a lot. That doesn't make the esoteric websites right, but I think perhaps the idea that the consensus diet advice is good and right "because consensus" is suspect also.
People don’t necessarily follow official guidelines. I wouldn’t call the American diet low fat https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-caloric-supply-deri... . Also this doesn’t even take into account the type of carbs. The average American consumes 15 grams of fiber a day, which means they don’t eat enough fruits, vegetables, legumes, seeds and nuts. Also a lot happened during those 40 years, to pin it all on the food guidelines is a bit too simplistic IMO.
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> It is wrong, it a real sense, to have unreasonable personal rules about a restaurant kitchen. It's wrong to eat meat.
Says you. Others (by the billions) say otherwise. Raising a stink in a public restaurant makes you look silly. Witness the widespread cultural backlash against it. This is all obvious and well-known. I know that righteous indignation is a drug, and it shows mostly on the internet, thank goodness. But we should all strive to break the addiction. The world will be a better place.
According to you, it's wrong "in a real sense" to make a fuss at a restaurant. According to others it's wrong to eat meat. Who are we to say which is worse? Which ultimately causes more harm and suffering in the world? It's great that you're not a fussy eater. Now try to show some respect for people who make different choices than you. And speaking of righteous indignation, you are showing a good deal of it in the face of some imagined restaurant incident; everyone else has simply pointed out that you can't sell non-vegetarian food as vegetarian.
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"I don't care but looking at pictures it doesn't feel right" yeah the classical it's-ok-as-long-as-I-don't-think-about-it attitude
Oh I've seen plenty of pictures and videos and whatnot. I've slaughtered plenty of animals myself (though never a cow, to be honest). I'm not looking away and pretending it doesn't exist. I'm staring at it and saying "yes I approve of that because I like to eat animals". If your argument is that intensive farming is less than ideal, sure, I agree. If your argument is that the solution to that is to stop eating meat,…
That’s saying “I want change but I don’t want to change”
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#516I think it’ll be a big win when plant-based burgers are cheaper than animal based burgers. From a raw ingredients standpoint plant based food should almost always be cheaper than animal based food because the costs associated with farming plants is lower than the costs associated with farming animals. Hopefully, with McDonald’s scale and with their vertical integration they can make affordable, tasty, and comparably…
It's long overdue that all the social costs of meat consumption are priced into those goods and/or that we subsidise plant based alternatives so that the ecological benefits are reflected at the counter. I'm pessimistic it's going to happen though.
I agree, but I also think its long overdue to reflect transportation costs to the consumers as well (airline prices and gasoline prices are artificially subsidized and do far more damage to the environment than meat production--target them first).
Re: McDonald's is adding plant-based burgers to the menu
#517I think it’ll be a big win when plant-based burgers are cheaper than animal based burgers. From a raw ingredients standpoint plant based food should almost always be cheaper than animal based food because the costs associated with farming plants is lower than the costs associated with farming animals. Hopefully, with McDonald’s scale and with their vertical integration they can make affordable, tasty, and comparably…
It makes little economic sense for it to be cheaper. People abstaining from certain types of food for ideological reasons like vegans and vegetarians do, are usually prepared to pay more to support their believes. It takes economic privilege to be picky about what food one eats. It would be foolish for restaurants to forgo such signals.
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#518Earlier quoted context omitted.
Says you. Others (by the billions) say otherwise. Raising a stink in a public restaurant makes you look silly. Witness the widespread cultural backlash against it. This is all obvious and well-known. I know that righteous indignation is a drug, and it shows mostly on the internet, thank goodness. But we should all strive to break the addiction. The world will be a better place.
Ignorance is a drug. Righteous indignation is just anger, the only emotion that ever drives real progress. The world would be a better place if you and everybody else stopped eating meat, sorry that triggers you.
Nah no problem. Look silly all you like. I'm just trying to help here. Everybody has their own place they've reached on their journey. Some are still in their early idealistic phase - like a college junior with all the answers and nothing better to do than shoot the bull. Some have seen a bit of water under the bridge, and recognize this.
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#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
Says you. Others (by the billions) say otherwise. Raising a stink in a public restaurant makes you look silly. Witness the widespread cultural backlash against it. This is all obvious and well-known. I know that righteous indignation is a drug, and it shows mostly on the internet, thank goodness. But we should all strive to break the addiction. The world will be a better place.
According to you, it's wrong "in a real sense" to make a fuss at a restaurant. According to others it's wrong to eat meat. Who are we to say which is worse? Which ultimately causes more harm and suffering in the world? It's great that you're not a fussy eater. Now try to show some respect for people who make different choices than you. And speaking of righteous indignation, you are showing a good deal of it in the fa…
Misbehaving in public, routinely, is just annoying and disrespectful. There (should be) standard for behavior in public. That's a basis for civilization.
And don't be silly - everybody has had to suffer through the lunch-time episode of somebody at the table grilling the waiter about how the food is cooked and what exactly is in it and don't they know they should do it different? While everybody else wishes they'd get on with it because we're hungry. Takes no imagination at all.
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#520Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to you, it's wrong "in a real sense" to make a fuss at a restaurant. According to others it's wrong to eat meat. Who are we to say which is worse? Which ultimately causes more harm and suffering in the world? It's great that you're not a fussy eater. Now try to show some respect for people who make different choices than you. And speaking of righteous indignation, you are showing a good deal of it in the fa…
Misbehaving in public, routinely, is just annoying and disrespectful. There (should be) standard for behavior in public. That's a basis for civilization. And don't be silly - everybody has had to suffer through the lunch-time episode of somebody at the table grilling the waiter about how the food is cooked and what exactly is in it and don't they know they should do it different? While everybody else wishes they'd ge…
sigh so much energy spent but your point was ultimately that Burger King should be able to lie about the contents of its food and no one should care. Just admit you were wrong dude!