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Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
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Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence. Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation , is lawful. But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful. I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exact…
Presidents are also commanders in chief; a civilian that has ultimate control of state’s violence monopoly. Still the distinction between lawful/unlawful applies.
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For those who don't like opening Twitter links: https://nitter.net/realDonaldTrump/status-/12662311007807447...
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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#514The service that hosts the accounts of all branches of the US military, all major weapons contractors, all three letter agencies, and many foreign militaries, governments, and world leaders guilty of all manner of war crimes, and this is where they draw the line for violence. Really interesting.
Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence. Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation , is lawful. But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful. I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exact…
Twitter didn't draw the line at promoting violence (which is a line I can agree with), they drew the line at a prediction of mail-in voting resulting in fraud.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#515Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…
> essentially calling for violence
Ironic that a microblogging service leads to lack of nuance. who would of thought?
My first read of trump's tweet was explaining the national guard has to move in because 'looting leads to shooting'. As in, we have to restore order to avoid more people getting shot. At the time Trump tweeted this, there was already one death from a pawn store owner shooting a looter.
So depending on your priors, your PoV, Trump was either promoting violence or trying to quell violence.
culture of 140 characters = more confusion, more division, more tribalism. If we valued well written, long form writing from our leaders we wouldn't be in this mess. Instead, we value twitter and leaders who make great slogans and can push people's buttons in 140 characters.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#516For everyone bashing Twitter's actions, including the President, why don't they just leave the platform for Gab or something else?
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Neither. The population are, or at least should be.
The population should be in charge of twitter? Doesn't that seem a little funny?
I believe this is called a nationalization. And here I was, thinking nothing Trump could pull would be surprising, but actually Trump nationalizing Twitter would do the trick.
Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
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It shows the actual words, which are hard to spin. If we keep what was done vague, we can spin it any way we please.
That's interesting. I interpreted it the exact opposite way. That looking at the words - they don't seem so bad, so the liberal-minded HN users downvoted to keep the details away. Funny how personal bias can twist perceptions.
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#519Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”
#520For everyone bashing Twitter's actions, including the President, why don't they just leave the platform for Gab or something else?
I don't quite understand the "if you don't like it leave" theory. Is it really so unreasonable for people to want to influence the way the established platform works rather than switch and be alone on a new platform. Nobody is going to bother coming with you to Gab.