I have a VW radio with a touchscreen. Fortunately the volume knob is in a fixed location so I can use it without taking my eyes of the road and the skip/play buttons are on the steering wheel. While aircraft use glass cockpits , the important controls keeping it in the sky are still good old button/levers even with different shapes/textures.
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#512I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…
Tesla is going the right way, the car is a driving smartphone and entertainment system. I can't see the next generation using anything else.
When you grow old and don't understand the future technology... Guess the future is now
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Are you suggesting from a safety point of view? Perhaps? I know the latest studies suggest hands free phone calls aren't much better than handed phone calls [1], I don't know if there would be a difference between a conversation and barking out instructions in this context. Id still prefer buttons. [1] https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/international/2016/07/...
I personally believe texting while driving to be the main issue. The number of times I’ve seen people cars swivel around on the highway texting can’t be counted. If I’m driving with someone and I see cars behave erratic I usually bet the driver is texting. Mostly they are and it’s just too obvious - it’s for some reason a specific pattern to it. I can’t be alone in noticing this?
They do course adjustment less ofent and more jerky. It looks lile they are practicing driving for the first times.
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#514I have a VW radio with a touchscreen. Fortunately the volume knob is in a fixed location so I can use it without taking my eyes of the road and the skip/play buttons are on the steering wheel. While aircraft use glass cockpits , the important controls keeping it in the sky are still good old button/levers even with different shapes/textures.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFbKj5CUwAEA_Wt.jpg
That image is actually quite powerful, I never thought about it like that.
- jaguar vs tesla
- blackberry vs iphone
- accessibility vs simplicity
- function vs form
- classic vs modern
They are both really good products, but some will prefer the blackberry and some the iPhone. The only thing we have in common, is always be ranting about why the other product is bad.
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i have an analog vehicle, and the car doesn't need to have to remember my settings because they are physically in the same location.
And what if you share your car with someone who prefers different settings?
Then they change the settings, and if they're a considerate human being, they change them back. If they're not, then you get to grumble a bit, change them back yourself, and consider not sharing your car with that person again. I don't think the world has lost anything substantial here.
Just realized I might be a grumpy old man.
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#516I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…
Why not smart assistant integration? Me (driving): Alexa/Siri set temperature to 70 degrees Alexa/Siri: temperature set to 70 degrees I would love this, already do it with my smart thermostat + Alexa skill integration.
'Alexa, set the temprature to seventy degrees' (system hears 'sevde-gree' due to road noise)
"Okay Sizzle, switching to Centigrade temperature scale"
'No! Alexa, switch to Fahrenheit' (system hears 'far ride')
"Okay Sizzle, going into long-range mode" turns off AC, music, etc
Voice controls in a car sounds good in theory but horrible in practice. I remember someone showing me one of the older pre smart assistant systems, him having to shout 'call X' 3 times and in the end it called the work instead of personal number
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The wipers wipe automatically when the camera detects rain on the windshield. If you want to do a window clean you just push the button on the end of the blinker handle on the left of the steering wheel. It's one of the few physical buttons of the 3.
How well does the auto wipe behave on Tesla’s? I’ve owned multiple cars with the feature over the last 10 years - the only one which has ever got it close was a Lexus (quite some time ago). The rest I’ve had and still need to constantly police.
2012 Passat and two Priuses (2nd and 3rd gen), all worked 95% of the time.
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#518I want a well-put-together electric car that's completely analog from the user's perspective . There's not a single user-facing digital feature I've ever seen on a car that I wanted, and in fact most of them make things worse. Obviously there's some non-user-facing stuff, i.e. all-wheel-drive, which computerization has revolutionized. But any user-facing stuff is just awful. I want an electric car, but I don't want t…
Most electric cars like the Leaf and Niro EV have traditional analog controls for AC and most other features. The touchscreen is mostly used for Satnav and music/radio in those cars. And really can you imagine Satnav without a touchscreen keyboard?
This is mostly because of legacy issues.
They have a supplier that has been doing analog knobs for them for half a century, and they're kind of obliged to still use their knobs.
Also the designers are very much in the "everything has to have a button" -mindset, which is hard to get out of.
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Are you not highlighting another problem. Buttons are always in the same place, I know where they are, I don't have to go hunting for the thing that used to be there, but is now in a sub sub menu, meanwhile you aren't looking where you're going.
Give me physical buttons and knobs any day. I'm afraid with the direction that things are going, that may become more and more difficult, and go the way of crank windows and manual transmissions, however. Oh well. The way that sticker prices keep going up on new pickup trucks, frankensteining old ones together and rebuilding the engines and transmissions is looking like more and more of a viable and cost-effective op…
Fortunately, one by one, car manufacturers are starting to get over the entire touchscreen fad, for example Mazda: https://thenewswheel.com/mazda-eliminates-touch-screens/
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#520The depth and breadth of anti-Tesla sentiment in HN threads is curious. It's rarely from owners. By all satisfaction surveys, owners love their Teslas.
It works both ways, I’ve been heavily downvoted just for saying they won’t have the EV market all to themselves much longer.
I'm still waiting for a viable Tesla competitor. The supercharger network is a surprisingly big bonus when doing the SWOT analysis of buying an EV.
Feature parity would (for me) require at least:
1) Same price point 2) Decent size, bigger than a Leaf, but still not SUV-big 3) Same range with same carrying capacity 4) Something that would compete with the Supercharger network 5) The Geek factor. I want a super-techy EV, not something that's exactly like a normal car, except electric.