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I own one and have bought three. Cloudflare DNS for me (via a Pihole).
You have to masquerade at your router. Or at the vpn. For example https://ba.net/adblock/vpn/roku-chromecast-fix.html
Thanks.
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Re: My Chromecast Ultra would not start until I began answering 8.8.8.8
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There's no reason "use only hardcoded DNS" couldn't be user configurable, for all the benefit with none of the costs. Well... all of the benefit to the user. Google doesn't get to use your DNS requests to sell ads.
> Well... all of the benefit to the user. Google doesn't get to use your DNS requests to sell ads. How do you envision this working on the product in question? When are you ever making arbitrary DNS lookups in a Chromecast? Seriously take the tinfoil hat off for a minute and think rationally. Google owns the entirety of the software on the device, and all connections to & from it. There's nothing they gain in terms o…
In this instance, I think it's got less to do with harvesting data from the lookups, and more to do with ensuring advertising gets shown?
i.e. I suspect Google force their own DNS so that one cannot so easily use e.g. PiHole to filter out DNS lookups for servers that stream e.g. YouTube adverts.
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I think the idea is that getting Google to fix this by telling them this is unacceptable is a swifter course of action than hoping Google will notice your individual $35 purchase went elsewhere.
You mean they can't just machine-vision the expression on your face, through your webcam, when you decide against a purchase?
Lol! Unfortunately only on Android 8 devices.
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#514More concerning to me was the fairly recent removal of non-phone-app setup. It used to be that a chromecast would display a 4 character code on screen, which could be used to activate it from the browser. Now, they require that it be managed with the google Home app, and have discontinued the method that allowed chromecast use without installing additional google software on your phone. This made for a really dishear…
The obvious reason is that any local browser config pages cannot be SSL protected because the device can not provide a valid certificate for 192.168.0.33 or chromecast.local Phone app can use a custom TLS CA to make sure the stick was produced by Google and is not a rogue neighbor phishing for your WiFi password..
It is impossible to ‘make sure the stick was produced by Google’. That’s fake security which is even worse than no security.
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I had no idea. thank you for this! I assume the setting is "use google dns service to help resolve navigation errors"?
Yes, except Chrome has very liberal definition of what it considers an error.
You’re not letting Google know what you’re browsing! We have resolved this error automatically.
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"Watching Big G's actions over the last few years, I've sometimes wondered if it's laying the groundwork to fork the internet." Wonder no more as that is the end goal . Nothing less than becoming the new Ma Bell can be considered success.
> Wonder no more as that is the end goal. We don't know this.
Not for sure no, but the signs are all there.
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You're acting like your guesses are just as good as The Intercept's investigation, and all to defend Google! Why are you doing PR for them?
Whether Google is in China or not, China Internet is not free and open. That's simply not Google's choice. The people with guns and tanks in China decide that. Judge Google by what they do the Internet where they have power , with browser tech and HTTP standards and AMP and DNS and YouTube and whatever.
> China Internet is not free and open.
Then Google should have nothing to do with it. Otherwise they are not supportive of 'a free and open internet', but are actively supporting a close, censored and controlled internet.
It's pretty simple.
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> By forcing you to use their DNS service, they can track every non-Google DNS query you make as well, which is all tied to your IP address. It's a Chromecast. You literally can't make non-Google queries on it at all in the first place. So what, exactly , is the privacy concern here? What specific flow of events does the Chromecast using 8.8.8.8 impact your privacy?
Chromecast allows casting any tab, with any URL, not just Google properties.
Which is a video stream. The Chromecast itself isn't doing squat but playing a video.
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They'd do it the same way every web service since the beginning of the internet has done it. "By using service X you are agreeing to be bound by the terms located at .... "
Changing privacy policies doesn't work that way. You have to inform users of the changes, or they can claim that they didn't know and aren't bound by it. That's why whenever companies change their ToS you get email/notifications/actual mail informing you of the changes. You can't do that for DNS.
> Changing privacy policies doesn't work that way.
Legally speaking, yes it does. It's a free service. The only obligation they have is to make their terms freely accessible, and to publicize any major changes.
You seem to be implying that Google and other free DNS providers have never changed their privacy policies since there's no good way to notify the users. Google's own website (and the Internet Archive) totally contradict this.
https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy
"Last updated October 29, 2018."