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Even at wages closing in on 3x minimum wage, we cannot get enough farm labor[1] - obviously low skilled American labor still doesn't want the job. What's the solution? [1] https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/
Because farm work isn't really low skilled. Sarah Taber did an excellent Twitter thread on this: https://twitter.com/sarahtaber_bww/status/107598191085642547...
U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers
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> I've worked with a few H1-B holders in Silicon Valley and they're awesome. I see your point, but you can't group all H1-B holders in the same boat. The ones you worked were awesome, but I am sure many have worked with ones that were not awesome. I will note, I have worked with a few awesome H1-B holders too, but I won't fall for ALL being the same. > If you are, like me, a software engineer, you should cheer every…
It's much harder to get an H1-B anymore. The people who manage to get one are mostly top-tier talent that are either battle-tested (rose through the ranks at a consulting firm) or are very good, domain experts. It's like saying, not every former Google developer is awesome. It might be true, but the bar to get a job there is so high that the person is very likely to be awesome.
It's not a high bar, but the right shape. There is a difference.
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How are you subsidizing them? You're getting cheap food - truck crop farming is notoriously low margin. Are you prepared for $15/pint strawberries?
Strawberry pints from farms which do not utilize unregulated workers come in typically at about $6 to $7 pint. They’re typically smaller scale, so large scale can have them at retail for around $5. If that helps all of us, the farmer the temporary worker and consumers, I don’t see a problem with it. Strawberries and such aren’t staples like wheat and rice (highly mechanized and automated).
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Qualified supply is nowhere close to matching demand. Ask anyone that has to do recruiting for their teams. Source: personal experience
Talking about demand exceeding supply is somewhat nonsensical without reference to a price. What you're saying is "at the price my company is willing to pay, we're unable to find qualified candidates." That means you can either pay more to attract qualified candidates, or do without. Alternatively, we can raise the supply curve, which has the affect of lowering wages, and might allow your company to attract talent wi…
My company pays at least market rate and can afford to go higher if the candidate negotiates, so I don't think that's the issue. At least, we never had a candidate refuse a position due to money concerns. The skills we look for are not that specialized either, it's not like I'm looking for ML PhD's with a background in medicine.
Anecdotally, it just feels like almost everyone who is already good, is already happily employed. So either we need to head-hunt candidates, hope to coincidentally catch them while they're between jobs, or hire very junior candidates and train them up.
Of course, the issue might also be just that we need better recruiters to populate the candidate pool :)
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#515Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "You realize that in the US 50% of all PhD candidates are foreign born." That number sounded really high to me and I went looking for information to refute it. Turns out 50% may be a rather modest estimate today: Foreign Students and Graduate STEM Enrollment https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2017/10/11/foreign... > The report found 81 percent of full-time graduate students in electrical and petroleum engine…
Have you stopped for a second to consider WHY? Maybe getting a PhD in the US is a huge waste of time because there's fierce competition for most academic jobs and scarce employment prospects?
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#516Earlier quoted context omitted.
They should also work on a visa system for seasonal (low-skill) workers and enforce e-verify so that people don't skirt the system willy-nilly. We need foreign low skilled workers and they want to work, but we need to regulate that workforce so they don't undercut our native low-skills workforce by being unregulated and overwhelming the workforce with cheap unregulated labor.
I think you’re putting the cart before the horse. Why is there a shortage of low skilled workers in a country of 400m? Because you have illegal workers who’ve driven the price of that work below what the market legally supports. If the law was effectively enforced those low skilled jobs would pay enough for Americans
What data supports this frequently touted conservative notion? There could be other factors. Like for e.g. tomatoes can only be sold at $2/lb before they run into competition from imported tomatoes. So the max anyone can afford to pay is really $X/hr. If they could only find someone at $2*X/hour, they would either not farm tomatoes or invest in machinery.
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#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
If we want stuff to be made in America instead of China, we should increase the number of skilled immigrants allowed in.
Import tax on crap would solve it.
Imports are paid for by exports. The US is currently paying for the manufacturing that it exported with dollars and documents. It could be paying with cars, and airplanes, and espresso machines, and in-sink garbage disposals, and novelty CNC lathes for engraving wooden pencils and chopsticks, and rapid refrigeration devices for single canned beverages, and maybe even non-imaginary 8K OLED television sets. If you make the specific exports that produce the most internal economic activity the cheapest way to pay for imports, increases in imports would encourage more exports.
If you're covering a trade deficit with cash, that impacts the same currency you use to conduct domestic trade--you're giving the trade partner leverage over your whole economy. What you really want to do is make a note spent in your own country buy far more than the same note spent elsewhere, so that the notes stay in the country, and the goods and services get exported instead. But you also want the rest of the world to have high demand for your currency, so that you can bring in a lot of imports, or go on lots of cheap tourist vacations. So devaluing your currency is not the best option.
But if you had, say, a 50% tax on foreign money transfers, if someone were to buy a $1 doodad from Elbonia, they would have to pay $2 for it in cash--$1 for the importer, and $1 for the tax. But they could also pay for it by purchasing a $1 doohickey locally and trading that for the $1 doodad, avoiding the tax, and keeping the $1 circulating in the domestic economy, and the Elbonian money circulating in Elbonia. Instead of taxing the trade itself, tax imbalanced trades and trade deficits.
Of course, any real-world implementation would be politicized to Hell and back, and chock full of loopholes, but it works just fine between imaginary countries.
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#518He campaigned on the opposite, didn't he?
Probably not the popular opinion here but the way I see trump is he was campaigning hard against “illegal immigration”. He didn’t explicitly say he’s against highly skilled immigration. Trump may be an idiot but it seems people incharge of immigration have their head straight and H1Bs are in sore need of a revamp. I hope the trend continues. America works because hard working and talented people want to come here and…
> Donald Trump signaled a shift in his stance on visas for highly-skilled workers Thursday night, moving away from the position he took on his campaign website.
Source: https://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates...
Looks like he's flip-flopped a few times.
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#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
Now you have households with both working and they can't afford to have kids This strikes me as ridiculous as a broad-brush, general statement. It's not that Americans can't afford to have kids, it's that they incentivize different things than they did in the past. I don't deny that real wages haven't risen because of the supply of workers and dual-income families, but c'mon. There's been an increase in professional…
> these DINKs refuse to sacrifice anything materially > to have children. They have lots of adult toys and > other conveniences, but somehow can't find the > money to raise a child. Well, some DINK's don't want children. Not everyone has to reproduce. There's many different factors involved here than material comfort. Also, in many American cities, public school is totally out of the question (if you actually care ab…
This all supports your point, other than to say it’s even more expensive than you’ve indicated.
Re: U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers
#520This change makes it more likely for graduates of US universities to get H1B visas, yet the discussion is on the overall merit of H1Bs. Exact same thing happens with solving the problem of country based caps on green cards which disadvantages people based on an attribute that they have no control over - their country of birth. Any change proposed to country based caps is looked at with whether the overall high skilled immigration system is good or not.
Its like no one wants to fix any bugs and people are only interested in a complete system rewrite. So every bug report and code review becomes a discussion platform for the problems of the overall system.