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When Google takes the approach you want, they are vilified for "letting third parties access your data" - as in the Gmail "scandal" a few months ago. If you let users do whatever they want, they will often shoot themselves in the foot. It's a tough balance.
Sorry for being behind in the news. What's this Gmail "scandal" you quote from a few months ago?
Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#512To defend Google a bit, it looks like the change is being put in place so that users would have more privacy – by stopping extensions accessing all active URLs. In essence they are copying what Apple did with Safari and their content blocking APIs. In this model, content blockers provide the browser with a set of blocking rules and the browser executes them against pages during render & load. Ad blocking can occur an…
A good general rule:
If you are planning on providing the functionality in the future please refrain from deprecating the existing mechanism until your replacement is fully complete.
Early access may fly on Steam but in the real world your careless management of the refactoring process is wasting the time of your peers.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#513Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't threaten, don't wait, do it now.
Not the person you're responding to, but no. Until uMatrix actually breaks for me, I'm not switching to Firefox. Switching is a pain, and I don't like Firefox's UI/UX. I'd switch if they did this because I value the extension very highly, but I wouldn't be happy about it.
Firefox UI feels like it was left behind. When I open up Firefox I feel like I've stepped into last decade. I realize this is just a personal opinion but it's strong enough to keep me from using FF. I was also super irritated with their default tab that shows all of the links you visited. I prefer my porn not showing every time I open a new tab. Features like this one, even if easy to disable should be opt in, not opt out. Any company that enables an opt out feature by default will get the boot unless no alternative exists. I know, it's harsh, but I vote with my usage and with my money.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#514The design doc — the part quoted in the note linked here even — explicitly notes that it will probably be required to retain some degree of the existing functionality slated for eventually removal until the new API and other replacements cover all use cases; the response linked here appears to (not improperly, in the context of making a case for why much of the functionality is needed) ignoring that and treating the…
The uBlock maintainer specifically says that uBlock Origin and uMatrix use a different matching algorithm than the declarativeNetRequest.
The title isn't at all hyperbolic. You don't deprecate such important functionality without laying out a full plan for replacement.
Unless there is no such plan and in reality you want to screw uBlock Origin, which I might say is the most aggressive ad blocker available, and isn't owned by a company in bed with the ads industry, like AdBlock Plus.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#515To defend Google a bit, it looks like the change is being put in place so that users would have more privacy – by stopping extensions accessing all active URLs. In essence they are copying what Apple did with Safari and their content blocking APIs. In this model, content blockers provide the browser with a set of blocking rules and the browser executes them against pages during render & load. Ad blocking can occur an…
What is the limit on the number of rules you can give to Safari? Gorhill mentions a limit of 30K and EasyList alone has more than 40K rules.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#517Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was doing some work with very large data sets in Google Sheets last week. I started hitting row and cell limits. Personally, I think a database is more appropriate for what I was doing, but spreadsheets are more grokable by non-techies. In Firefox, macOS was showing 4+GB of memory usage and formulas would take hours to run. I switched to Safari where memory usage was closer to 1-2GB, but it had this habit of refres…
Do you have examples which aren't Google sites?
My own personal anecdote is that Firefox spins my laptop fans audibly, while Chrome does not.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#518Earlier quoted context omitted.
Many similar concerns were raised when the Safari API changed, in this case some of the specific limitations and concerns re the declarativeNetRequest approach may be valid – if so, I'd hope that the Chromium team take them on board and improve. I think the concern re the 30,000 rule limit is misguided. Many of these adblock rule lists are extremely inefficient and should probably be pruned to have less rules. Extrem…
I personally use an adblocker not only to block ads, but also to block literally everything I don't like. In most websites, this means the social buttons, the comments section, all search functionality, anything in the header or navigation I won't click, related articles, top articles, other recommended articles, footers, links to privacy policies, parts of bylines that I don't care about, header images when I don't…
Please share your rulelist
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#519Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally use an adblocker not only to block ads, but also to block literally everything I don't like. In most websites, this means the social buttons, the comments section, all search functionality, anything in the header or navigation I won't click, related articles, top articles, other recommended articles, footers, links to privacy policies, parts of bylines that I don't care about, header images when I don't…
1Blocker for iOS can block everything you mentioned and doesn’t get access to your browsing activity to do it.
Free Firefox Focus provides iOS Content blocker too, which you can use in Safari.
Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin
#520Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gecko is deep in to a transitional phase. Once it comes out the other end it may be simple to embed but it's currently far too early for that. On the other hand Chromium is relatively simple to adapt with many real world examples to learn from. (Personally I think they should stick with EdgeHtml but it seems that ship has sailed).
I wish they would have thrown in with the Servo project, but Chromium is ready now and Servo isn't, so I'm sure that factored in.
I wonder how quickly servo could become feature if a major player decided to adopt it.