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Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by scarface74 »

prewett wrote: post #350
RussianCow wrote: post #83

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> But one could argue that those contributions to git are just to further MS's interests. Of course they are! Everything a corporation does is to further its own interests. Most (large) companies don't contribute to open source out of the goodness of their hearts.

But someone that acts only in their own interests is not trustable. You give trust to people as they demonstrate that they are concerned about your interests. Thus far, I've seen zero evidence that Microsoft has genuine concern for anyone else's interests. And they've had a history of acting against other's interest in a stifling and illegal way. I don't trust them.

As opposed to every other large company? All companies are only concerned with their own interests.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by baldfat »

TuringNYC wrote: post #155
zulrah wrote: post #123

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So you tell that people trust private company which was loosing money since the creation better than Microsoft with all of its reputation at stake?

Is it unfair that I keep thinking of the SCO–Linux dispute at the moment? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCO%E2%80%93Linux_disputes#Mic...

That's comparing oranges with a monkey. How do they relate?

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by baldfat »

dannyw wrote: post #424
baldfat wrote: post #26

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I really can't think of a better large tech company to buy GitHub (Which has been closed sourced since creation and I don't know why people are so scared). Now Oracle would make me put on my tin foil hat on immediately and deleting of my account.

Google or Amazon?

I don't see how their reputations would be even garner half the trust.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jameshart »

8_hours_ago wrote: post #395
nielsbjerg wrote: post #373

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How so? What was going to be controlled, by whom?

I assumed that Microsoft has security policies to ensure that all confidential information (e.g. non-open-source code and strategic discussions) is stored on infrastructure controlled by Microsoft. The company I work at is very careful about keeping our intellectual property on our infrastructure, and I am surprised that a larger company like Microsoft doesn't have similar policies.

Microsoft aims to make most of its money in the immediate future by convincing every major business in the world to let MS host that company's email, internal documents, spreadsheets and powerpoints on Microsoft's office365 servers.

It would be highly contradictory for MS to take the position, as a matter of policy, that it is too risky for them to ever place confidential business data onto a third party cloud-hosted SaaS system, because that is precisely the risk they are asking every one of their customers to take.

Similarly, if you have concerns about putting your company's source code into GitHub now, you should be equally concerned about putting your company's prerelease annual report on the office365 onedrive.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by tjalfi »

com2kid wrote: post #439
trynewideas wrote: post #195

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I'm more interested in how companies with private repos on GitHub react.

Companies that complete with MS still use Windows, Sharepoint, Office 365, and OneDrive. Microsoft isn't going to go around snooping competitors' source code any more than they are going to go around snooping competitors' email.

Microsoft did snoop through the email account of a blogger who received leaked information[0].

[0] https://www.recode.net/2014/3/20/11624792/blogger-psa-dont-u...

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by jdiaz5513 »

nicodjimenez wrote: post #145

What nobody is really commenting on is how huge of an opportunity this is for Microsoft to reinvent itself in the eyes of the developer community. If Microsoft can somehow manage to gain trust from Github users, which is very possible and desirable for them, it will make Azure more compelling in many ways than Amazon as a cloud computing platform. After Amazon's acquisition of Cloud9, Microsoft is the first big compa…

Integrated CI backed by Azure (with paid options for non-OSS projects) could be a positive outcome of this acquisition. Done right, could be a good gateway to get OSS devs experimenting on Azure.

More viable competition on cloud hosting is definitely a good thing for society at large.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by balls187 »

thelastidiot wrote: post #510

Who wants their pull request comments to be used as metadata for Microsoft to benefit from knowing what each software developer under the sun is working on at any time? Didn't we just face the same abuse of leverage personal data from facebook? I will privilege my communication either private or professional by refraining to use both github and facebook.

I never really lumped Microsoft in the "abuse your personal data" space.

Abuse their market position, yes, abuse TOS to screw companies out of money, yes, but abuse privacy, unsure that's fair.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by bitwize »

ljm wrote: post #332
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

I'm curious if Electron will get a boost of some kind now. Considering how famous/notorious it is, MS could get a hell of a lot of goodwill here if they invest in the tech.

More likely, they will make the new, NEW Windows API essentially Electron. Instantly Electron apps run better on Windows because each app doesn't have its own browser runtime taking ip disk/RAM.

Re: Hello, GitHub

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Post by H1Supreme »

adrianmalacoda wrote: post #255
Klathmon wrote: post #64

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I agree, my biggest concerns are: 1. What is happening to Atom? I have tried VS code and don't really like it due to the difference in how the 2 systems are designed to work (Atom being more "plugins are king", VSCode being more "kitchen sink included by first-party"). I'd hate to see my favorite editor lose it's major backing. If MS makes a commitment to continue to develop Atom, or they work with someone else to "t…

Fellow Atom user here. According to Lee Dohm, Open Source Community Manager at GitHub, "Atom remains key to GitHub. Our product roadmap is set, and the team will continue all of their work." [0] [0] https://github.com/atom/atom/issues/17454#issuecomment-39442...

> and the team will continue all of their work

Until they aren't. I really don't see MS putting work into two code editors that are in direct competition with each other. I'm sure they'll let the dust settle for a while, but Atom will vanish from Microsoft's product list. No doubt.

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