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Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Nobody uses the official reddit apps. I've been using third party reddit apps (which are amazing) since 2010 (Galaxy S1).

Well I use the official app. I tried redditisfun but it was pretty much the same. Do you suggest any other app?

Check out Sync for reddit for Android [0] and iOS (Beta) [1]

[0] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.laurenceda...

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/sync_ios/

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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I've heard plenty of rap music, mate, and all I can conclude is you're racist as hell. Also, wow, you've been pushing this "rap music is racist" nonsense for almost a year: > Would you hold that same opinion if the thing said were, say, violent american black rap lyrics? > I can just as easily say "walking in any major US city, you can find young male black thugs. . ." And then use that as a justification to ban many…

https://i2.wp.com/s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/8e/17/e3...

Yeah, that's about the response I expected.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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But there is a lot of groupthink on Reddit, too. Some popular forms you just have to stay out of if you have a different opinion.

There are also spaces which are extremely tolerant to difference of opinion. You can choose those. r/changemyview is one favorite example for excellent rational discourse on often very controversial topics.

And then there are those which require objectivity which can be cited and followed up upon. /r/AskHistorians is perhaps the best example of this.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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> Reddit has movements like hail corporate trying to self-police dishonesty and manipulative behavior. Self-policing can also be manipulated. You cannot rely on user-intent alone, you need some structural protection against these kinds of things. Although I don't know what the best kind is.

It's not clear to me why structural protection would be better than self-policing, given that both can fairly trivially be manipulated by a wallet the size of a corporation.

Nobody said it was better. You need both. Ideally, they complement each other in a bigger-than-the-sum-of-its-parts manner that is better than using either one alone.

Tangential example of technology/community interaction: Clay Shirky's "A Group Is It's Own Worst Enemy" is a great essay on how self-policing can backfire even without external influences[0]. The overall conclusion being that the technological framework surrounding the community needs to provide the means for it to support itself not only against internal influences, but also to prevent it from harming itself.

On reddit you can see in practice how the many different subcommunities apply this self-policing in practice, and what kind of effects it has. From the echo chambers of the more extremist ones (won't name any examples to avoid provoking anyone), to examples of subreddits dying due to sloppy moderation not holding back meme-ification and shitposting (same), to communities with very clear goals that are achieved through iron-fisted moderation (usually knowledge-oriented communities like /r/AskHistorians).

[0] http://shirky.com/writings/group_enemy.html

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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The initial idea of Facebook is great. I can't exactly knock it when this site is heavily influenced. But the problem with having specific boards that satisfy every little interest is that an echo chamber effect often occurs. My karma on that site is so low, not because of trolling, but speaking my own opposing views. I'll never be able to post on a FreeBSD subreddit, claiming a specific case where I find Linux bette…

Side note, my understanding is not that OpenBSD rejects Rust due to "no core utilities have been implemented", but because it cannot bootstrap from a C compiler alone.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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As a long, long time user of Reddit, it has been quite saddening to see its descent into the shallow, ultra-toxic husk of a corporate entity that it is today. I'm not surprised by its popularity; it's a headline-surfers paradise, one in which you get feel good points for displays of virtue or shitposting easily digested content in an era of unparalleled narcissism and shortened attention spans. All is not lost though…

I used Reddit for a long time and stayed in niche interest subreddits[1], far away from the defaults featured on the front page. While there was certainly some interesting discussions happening, anything even slightly controversial or contrary to the groupthink got downvoted quickly, or even deleted by mods in some cases. In some cases, even the mods got into flamewars and harassment.

Add to this the absolutely horrible user interface that makes navigating long comment threads borderline impossible, it's just a damn mess. The whole setup and layout encourages pithy one-liners instead of longer more thoughtful posts. Not that those don't exist, but they're exceedingly rare.

I deleted my account and I haven't looked back. I'll still look through a Reddit thread if it comes up as a search result, but I don't go there deliberately, and I refuse to create a new user.

[1] Mostly related to my hobbies, such as vintage audio gear, pro audio, cars/motorcycles, metal music, booze and cooking.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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One of the major issues not often discussed is the "powermods", or the small subset of users who are the moderators of a huge number of subreddits. They can and often do enforce their biases on multiple unrelated communities. Reddit's moderators selection process ensures that they cannot be replaced even if a majority of the community don't support them without creating a brand new subreddit.

I have a major issue with this too. I posted an idea for the admins to counter this type of thing by allowing users if they wish to, to blacklist mods so that a user can still view content that those mods have removed without having any effect on users who don't blacklist those mods. It went as we'll as I expected it probably would have. https://www.reddit.com/r/ideasfortheadmins/comments/8mrqyh/a... I don't know if…

Your idea seemed interesting, but I think "blacklist" is too strong a term. Perhaps "hide mod action" would have gone better.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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Right, no one is asking anything in those communities, because they’re the tumbleweeds. Voat has fulminating hate boners and tumbleweeds, and literally nothing else. https://voat.co/v/gardening Jesus that’s dead. Meanwhile if you want to hear some skinhead rant, that’s plenty active. Accept what you want, but I’m not interested in the internet equivalent of a Klan rally or a skinhead bar. I’ll go to the reputable est…

Or hell, just look at Voat's /v/all page. I just took a look myself, and I saw page of posts that included two posts from a Pizzagate sub, a comic that refers to refugees as "rapefugees", and a self post which unironically used the phrase "anti-White". I only saw one post that looked like it was from a general-interest sub (/v/JustGrowIt); everything else -- even posts from humor subs -- was unabashedly political. Th…

> a self post which unironically used the phrase "anti-White"

I think one can use anti-White unironically (even if it was not the case here). For example, white farmers in South Africa having their lands confiscated by the Gov without compensation is anti-White.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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There are also spaces which are extremely tolerant to difference of opinion. You can choose those. r/changemyview is one favorite example for excellent rational discourse on often very controversial topics.

I'll add r/NeutralPolitics to this list.

r/poltics is awful.

Its a Trump hate thread with very little objectivity.

Re: Reddit just passed Facebook as #3 most popular website in US

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They still allow anonymous sign-up without an email address, but I've noticed a few dark UI patterns hiding that feature with recent redesigns. I delete and create accounts all the time to improve anonymity and prevent karma-lust. A few months ago I almost swore off Reddit because it seemed not providing an email was no longer an option during sign up. Now you just have to hit "Next" with an empty email field, it use…

> didn't want to scare me into giving up my email address using "account recovery" FUD It's not FUD. I run a small website (about 10k daily visits) where you can log in and play some games and don't have the "reset password via e-mail" mechanism. You won't believe the amount of "I forgot my password, please reset it" requests I get from people. Majority of people give more value to being allowed to be lazy and forget…

I linked an email with my Reddit account long before it became recommended. Years later, I deleted that gmail account. Even more years after that, Reddit decided (automated) to lock my account until I reset my password for no discernible reason, the only option being via email. It took two weeks with support, across 3 different mediums of communication, to get it reset to a new email account.

I guess what I’m saying is that there is an internal motivation at play to get people to register their email accounts at Reddit, and it goes far beyond reducing customer support time because at present, they are going the opposite way. In fact, had I never registered an email, their automated account locking nonsense would never have triggered, and had I lost my password, their official policy is not to help at all.

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